[COM] Rundle Place | 76m | 15lvls | Retail & Office

[Paulns]

Build, build, please build this!

[Queen Anne]

I welcome the approval of this exciting proposal, however I support the council's call to protect the Rundle Mall façade of Harris Scarfe. The 4 level 'tower' fronting Rundle Mall is an attractive interwar stripped classical design which I think should be preserved.

I do not want future generations to condemn us for destroying such a structure, in the same manner we condemn those who destroyed the old Myer building in 1988.

Well said Will.

I, Like AtD, really like modern architecture mixed with old - I think it makes for a much more interesting city and that we should put more effort into nurturing this mix.

[white_goodman]

is there a link on the council? like areas and plans etc?

[Düsseldorfer]

IMO the Grenfell St front needs to be demolished, it's pretty fugly...but the Rundle facade i really don't mind if they keep it or demolish it, just something that looks cool would be good for the mall...

[AtD]

is there a link on the council? like areas and plans etc?

There was a collection of plans and elevations placed on public display as part of the assessment process. They have since been taken down, but I grabbed a copy of them here:
http://www.photoadelaide.com/Rundle%20Mall%20Tower/

[Will]

This development will receive its final stamp of approval this Thursday when the state governemnt DAC is expected to concur with the ACC and grant planning APPROVAL to the project.

However there have been some minor ammendments to the proposal particularaly its streetscape along Lindes Lane and Francis Street. Following discussion with council the ground floor plans have been ammended so as to include 'niche' retail tenancies fronting these side streets. This welcome change is designed to activate these side streets and turn them into a further magnet to attract people to Rundle Mall.

[Wayno]

Following discussion with council the ground floor plans have been ammended so as to include 'niche' retail tenancies fronting these side streets. This welcome change is designed to activate these side streets and turn them into a further magnet to attract people to Rundle Mall.

this is very sensible and good news indeed!

[skyliner]

Following discussion with council the ground floor plans have been ammended so as to include 'niche' retail tenancies fronting these side streets. This welcome change is designed to activate these side streets and turn them into a further magnet to attract people to Rundle Mall.

this is very sensible and good news indeed!

Agreed - excellent move - much of this is needed around the CBD. Should be a great development.

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE

[AtD]

However there have been some minor ammendments to the proposal particularaly its streetscape along Lindes Lane and Francis Street. Following discussion with council the ground floor plans have been ammended so as to include 'niche' retail tenancies fronting these side streets. This welcome change is designed to activate these side streets and turn them into a further magnet to attract people to Rundle Mall.

You wouldn't have an updated plan would you? Sounds great.

Francis Street may suffer if Da Costa Arcade closes too early.

When does the U-Park close? Is it 24 hours?

[monotonehell]

However there have been some minor ammendments to the proposal particularaly its streetscape along Lindes Lane and Francis Street. Following discussion with council the ground floor plans have been ammended so as to include 'niche' retail tenancies fronting these side streets. This welcome change is designed to activate these side streets and turn them into a further magnet to attract people to Rundle Mall.

You wouldn't have an updated plan would you? Sounds great.

Francis Street may suffer if Da Costa Arcade closes too early.

When does the U-Park close? Is it 24 hours?

The Grenfell UPark generally closes an hour and a half after the shops' closing time.

[AtD]

For perpetuity: http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... 471#p52471

SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING held on 3 November 2008
The meeting was called to consider Council’s response to the Harris Scarfe proposal to redevelop its Rundle St store. Because Council owns a part of the development site it will have to respond to the development in its role as a part-landlord but because of this ‘conflict of interest’ Council has to refer the planning assessment process to the Development Assessment Commission which in turn gives Council the chance to offer comments on the planning merits of the scheme. Council resolved to show its support for the proposal but to express its concern that the design lacks ‘richness of detail’, ‘does not integrate existing buildings’ and ‘puts at risk the ability to draw on the richness of detailing and sense of history and place that the side lanes (Lindes Lane and Flinders St) provide. Similar sentiments were expressed by Council in its role as part landlord and further moves to negotiate with the developer to achieve the retention of parts of the heritage elements in Rundle Mall and the side lanes may follow.

I agree with the sentiment that the design lacks ‘richness of detail.’ I know we're all excited to see such a significant sized development in the Mall, but I do worry that there is a danger of this project turning out to be... generic. When Rundle Mall has to compete with ever expanding suburban malls, it does need to offer something to differentiate itself.

Here's hoping the architects have something up their sleeves!

[Will]

However there have been some minor ammendments to the proposal particularaly its streetscape along Lindes Lane and Francis Street. Following discussion with council the ground floor plans have been ammended so as to include 'niche' retail tenancies fronting these side streets. This welcome change is designed to activate these side streets and turn them into a further magnet to attract people to Rundle Mall.

You wouldn't have an updated plan would you? Sounds great.

Francis Street may suffer if Da Costa Arcade closes too early.

When does the U-Park close? Is it 24 hours?

I am led to believe that no plans exist as this stage as this arrangement is more of a 'gentlemen's agreement'.

[Ben]

From The Messenger:

Harris Scarfe site tower approved
by Adam Todd

A 19-storey, $150 million tower has been approved for Harris Scarfe’s Rundle Mall site.

The State Government’s Development Assessment Commission (DAC) yesterday (November 13) approved the development, subject to several conditions.

The tower will front Rundle Mall and Grenfell St and feature a mix of retail and office space, with Harris Scarfe occupying the bottom four storeys.

The existing 1920s Harris Scarfe building will be demolished.

DAC principal planner Roger Freeman said the project was worthy of support and the reserve matters were not fundamental issues.

“They’re important issues, but not something that can’t be worked out,” he said.

“(The conditions include) some of the design detail at pedestrian level on Rundle Mall and the two laneways, and also the facade of the tower block as well as design detail on that, they were the critical things.”

Mr Freeman said planning officers would meet with the developer Alteman SA next week to resolve the matters.

The City Council backed the project at a special meeting a fortnight ago after surrendering its planning approval powers because of a conflict of interest.

Town Hall owns part of the site, including the basement and loading dock.

The City Council has expressed an interest in negotiating with the developer to retain the existing 1920s facade as part of the new tower.

Mr Freeman said development plans would need to be resubmitted to the DAC if the facade was retained.

[omada]

I think this one has exhibited some sound decision making by the planning authorities:

1. Stipulation to activate laneways

2. Possibility to retain the facade

Most importantly though, these issues have been sensitively dealt with and haven't impeded the progress of the development application.

Lets hope this one gets off the ground soon...

[AtD]

I wouldn't particularly like to see the facade retained, but I wouldn't mind a more detailed facade.