Retail brands / choices in Adelaide

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Re: Retail brands / choices in Adelaide

#46 Post by Wayno » Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:07 pm

monotonehell wrote:All you're left with is a cup of brown.
do you want your coffee black or white? errrr, brown please...
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Re: Retail brands / choices in Adelaide

#47 Post by Omicron » Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:12 pm

monotonehell wrote:
pushbutton wrote:The main advantage of starbucks over Gloria Jeans is they serve the coffee in real cups, not paper ones, they let you read the paper free instead of making you buy one, and most importantly they actually know what a cappucino is! (Gloria Jeans don't seem to know that a cappucino has chocolate on top)
Heathen! A real cappucino has no chocolate on top. You must live in Adelaide ;) But yes Gloria Jean's serve paper cups of something that neither smells or tastes of coffee.

Until recently we had good coffee in most places. Now everyone seems to sell the horrid Vittoria gunk served at way too hot a temperature. Coffee's aromatics denature above 60 degrees Celsius. All you're left with is a cup of brown. Starbucks made all these mistakes and more. They burnt their beans so that the experience would be the same in each location. A cup of bitter nothing. OMGz if I had to witness one more trainee in Starbucks being taught to steam milk by jiggling the jug I would go berserker.

There's many other places where you can get the experiences that you mention above PLUS good coffee.

From an Italian perspective:
* What we call a flat white they call a latte
* What we call a latte they call a cappucino
* What we call a cappucino they'd call an abortion!
* Additionally you'd never ask for a cappucino after breakfast time. It's espressos the rest of the day.
(Nb I'm not Italian ;) )
Italians with a wry grin have been known to serve up simply cups of milk to tourists barging in asking for a 'latte'. I think I'd enjoy doing that, too.

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Re: Retail brands / choices in Adelaide

#48 Post by arki » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:23 am

monotonehell, I wonder where you drink coffee in Adelaide.

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Re: Retail brands / choices in Adelaide

#49 Post by Matt » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:07 am

Omicron wrote:
Italians with a wry grin have been known to serve up simply cups of milk to tourists barging in asking for a 'latte'. I think I'd enjoy doing that, too.

Yes, that happened to us. :oops:

I also ordered an iced coffee in Florence, and was served a chilled espresso.

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Re: Retail brands / choices in Adelaide

#50 Post by monotonehell » Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:58 pm

arki wrote:monotonehell, I wonder where you drink coffee in Adelaide.
It's becoming harder to get a decent one. So hard I actually bought an espresso machine.

The various Cibo outlets around do an okay cup. Illy / Un Cafe Bar / UCB / Felici or whatver they're calling themselves these days do an okay cup. They used to be better, but they changed their blend over a year ago. However the one on Rundle street that has become Felici have changed their blend again, but I've not been back since to taste.

Adelaide Coffee Bar on Grenfell is good. Some of the other smaller cafe's know what they are doing.

Ironically the only good coffee I've had in the US was at a Starbucks. But I think that was after a month of the drip brown stuff that they leave on the heater for hours (think McDonald's). After that it's all relative.
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Re: Retail brands / choices in Adelaide

#51 Post by peas_and_corn » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:40 pm

Anyone seen the new commercials for Woolworths Liquor? They have extended their new logo to that business (kinda), with a 'W logo' style leaf being the dot for the word 'liquor' and a nice font for the word. It's a pity that the banner for the commercial isn't that font as well, they could make the font 'theirs', so to speak.

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Re: Retail brands / choices in Adelaide

#52 Post by Omicron » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:40 pm

peas_and_corn wrote:Anyone seen the new commercials for Woolworths Liquor? They have extended their new logo to that business (kinda), with a 'W logo' style leaf being the dot for the word 'liquor' and a nice font for the word. It's a pity that the banner for the commercial isn't that font as well, they could make the font 'theirs', so to speak.
I wish they were cheaper, too. Dan Murphy's is far, far more reasonably-priced; even the Thirsty Camel bottle shops are cheaper than the alarming rates charged by our largest retailer.

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Re: Retail brands / choices in Adelaide

#53 Post by AtD » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:31 am

Dan Murphy = Woolworths
BWS = Woolworths too.

Illusion of choice.

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Re: Retail brands / choices in Adelaide

#54 Post by Aidan » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:21 pm

pushbutton wrote: They need to get their act together. Just from a casual observers point of view they have several different logos and slogns in use at the moment, none of which are any good.
How much of a difference do the logos and slogans really make? Surely what's important are quality and price? A few people might think that quality's determined by the logo, but most people know it isn't.
Who else here find the Coles supermarkets brand boring, tired and uninspiring?
I go to supermarkets to buy groceries, not to be inspired!

As for whether we need another chain, I think we do - there doesn't seem to be much competition on price at the moment I can't really comment on Aldi - when I was in London I shopped at over a dozen different chains, but not Aldi as they were too inconvenient to get to. But I appreciated Franklins when it was at Noarlunga, and I'd be glad to see it back.
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Re: Retail brands / choices in Adelaide

#55 Post by pushbutton » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:45 pm

This is not news to me because I've already seen it in England, but it may be of some interest to those who haven't been overseas lately...

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=q_bvRs0C3rE

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Re: Retail brands / choices in Adelaide

#56 Post by pushbutton » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:14 pm

Aidan wrote:I go to supermarkets to buy groceries. Not to be inspired!
Of course you do, because in an Adelaide supermarket that's all you CAN do!

However if you were to visit some international supermarkets that actually ARE inspiring, I think you might change your mind.

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Re: Retail brands / choices in Adelaide

#57 Post by peas_and_corn » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:57 pm

Coles has taken the hatchet to the wage budget, so expect much fewer staff around, and somewhat more empty shelves. St Agnes has had a 50% cut, and is having another 50% cut coming in soon (I think this week?). We all knew it was coming, it just was a matter of time.

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