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#136 Post by Norman » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:43 am

Cruise wrote:
Norman wrote:Electrification is delayed on the Outer Harbor line only. Noarlunga will be completed on time (2013/2014)
What?
The process of electrification on the Outer Harbor line has been delayed for 2 years. The other lines are still on track to be completed on time, as far as I know.

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#137 Post by drwaddles » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:34 am

Norman wrote:
Cruise wrote:
Norman wrote:Electrification is delayed on the Outer Harbor line only. Noarlunga will be completed on time (2013/2014)
What?
The process of electrification on the Outer Harbor line has been delayed for 2 years. The other lines are still on track to be completed on time, as far as I know.
Isn't that the opposite to what was written in the article?

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#138 Post by Cruise » Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:33 pm

drwaddles wrote:
Norman wrote: The process of electrification on the Outer Harbor line has been delayed for 2 years. The other lines are still on track to be completed on time, as far as I know.
Isn't that the opposite to what was written in the article?
Yes, all articles say the Noarlunga line has been delayed. Norman is the only one to tell me it's not.

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#139 Post by Norman » Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:33 pm

Straight from the MYBR:
Transport, Energy and Infrastructure
The Mid-Year Budget Review includes a re-prioritisation of the Transport, Energy and Infrastructure
capital program that will reduce expenditure by $279 million up to 2011-12. Associated operating
savings of $2 million will also be achieved by 2011-12. The major changes are:
• retiming of the South Road/Sturt Road Underpass will reduce expenditure by $62 million up to
2011-12 with completion still scheduled for 2013-14;
• retiming of the electrification of the Noarlunga line project reducing expenditure by
$113.5 million up to 2011-12 with completion still scheduled for 2013-14;
• commencement of the electrification of the Outer Harbor line is delayed by two years (to be
completed now in 2014-15 — original completion date 2012-13) will reduce expenditure by
$85 million (including $2 million operating savings) up to 2011-12;

• the upgrade of the Diagonal Road/Morphett Road intersection is delayed by one year (to be
completed now in 2013-14 — original completion date 2012-13), reducing expenditure by
$10.8 million up to 2011-12; and
• the Green Triangle Railway project is delayed to beyond the forward estimates (reducing
expenditure by $10 million up to 2011-12).
The Noarlunga line only has the starting time changed, not the completion time.

Read the MYBR here: http://www.treasury.sa.gov.au/public/do ... sp?id=2825

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#140 Post by Shuz » Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:51 pm

Does anyone have any further information on the Diagonal/Morphett Roads upgrade?
And what is the Green Triange Railway Project? I've never heard of it before, or of any area alternatively named 'Green Triangle'.

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#141 Post by Norman » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:54 pm

Shuz, for info on the Diagonal/Morphett Roads intersection, go here:
http://www.marion.sa.gov.au/web/webmar. ... Background

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#142 Post by Shuz » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:13 pm

Thanks Norman.

I got to say, I'm massively, and I mean, massively disappointed. The two options are so cheap and nasty, and doesn't even include a plan to eliminate the level crossing.
Morphett Road N should be merged with Diagonal Road S via underpass (because you wouldn't want to compromise the deisgn of the Oaklands Interchange, and Morphett Road S should be merged with Diagonal Road N via overpass. That way, Oaklands Interchange remains intact, and the two roads are segregated from the other without an intersection.

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#143 Post by skyliner » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:18 pm

Shuz wrote:Does anyone have any further information on the Diagonal/Morphett Roads upgrade?
And what is the Green Triange Railway Project? I've never heard of it before, or of any area alternatively named 'Green Triangle'.
Shuz, the 'green triangle' refers to the lower south east. (I believe the points being MG, Millicent and Naracoorte) The rail project was the construction of the Penola - MG section to standard gauge with suggestions of the re establishment of passenger services. Victoria was also making moves to connect Heywood - MG and thus Portland - I believe to access the Pulp Mill products instead of it all going to Pt Adelaide. (Trying to access SA products mind you!). Found this info on SE rail proposals via the Border Watch (MG paper). Not sure if Victorian proposal is going any further.

Much more detail about all this on the Penola Pulp Mill thread in 'regional' section.

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#144 Post by Norman » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:41 pm

Shuz wrote:Thanks Norman.

I got to say, I'm massively, and I mean, massively disappointed. The two options are so cheap and nasty, and doesn't even include a plan to eliminate the level crossing.
Morphett Road N should be merged with Diagonal Road S via underpass (because you wouldn't want to compromise the deisgn of the Oaklands Interchange, and Morphett Road S should be merged with Diagonal Road N via overpass. That way, Oaklands Interchange remains intact, and the two roads are segregated from the other without an intersection.
One thing is missing in that proposal.

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But what do you expect for $10m?

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#145 Post by drwaddles » Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:15 pm

Norman wrote:Straight from the MYBR:
Transport, Energy and Infrastructure
The Mid-Year Budget Review includes a re-prioritisation of the Transport, Energy and Infrastructure
capital program that will reduce expenditure by $279 million up to 2011-12. Associated operating
savings of $2 million will also be achieved by 2011-12. The major changes are:
• retiming of the South Road/Sturt Road Underpass will reduce expenditure by $62 million up to
2011-12 with completion still scheduled for 2013-14;
• retiming of the electrification of the Noarlunga line project reducing expenditure by
$113.5 million up to 2011-12 with completion still scheduled for 2013-14;
• commencement of the electrification of the Outer Harbor line is delayed by two years (to be
completed now in 2014-15 — original completion date 2012-13) will reduce expenditure by
$85 million (including $2 million operating savings) up to 2011-12;

• the upgrade of the Diagonal Road/Morphett Road intersection is delayed by one year (to be
completed now in 2013-14 — original completion date 2012-13), reducing expenditure by
$10.8 million up to 2011-12; and
• the Green Triangle Railway project is delayed to beyond the forward estimates (reducing
expenditure by $10 million up to 2011-12).
The Noarlunga line only has the starting time changed, not the completion time.

Read the MYBR here: http://www.treasury.sa.gov.au/public/do ... sp?id=2825
Thanks Norman, that clears it up.

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#146 Post by muzzamo » Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:06 pm

I noticed today that they are extending the car park at hallet cove beach station again, this time on the eastern side. I wonder if it was from complaints from residents: that eastern carpark is always packed and at least 20 cars park on the street
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#147 Post by Wayno » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:18 pm

Adelaide Rail Freight Transport Study

I was reading Transport & Logistics News, as you do, and came across this article:

http://tandlnews.com.au/2009/02/19/arti ... FVJMB.html
Adelaide Rail Freight Movements Study

The Australian Government has appointed GHD Pty Ltd to examine rail freight movements to and through Adelaide and surrounding regions.

The $3 million study, announced in September, will be an important step in developing strategies for improving the efficiency of the national freight network and addressing the concerns of the local community about noise, congestion and safety.

“The detailed study will be vital in making the best long-term decisions for Adelaide’s future freight needs, while balancing amenity for local residents,” Federal Transport Minister Anthony Albanese said.

“Planning freight rail movements ahead of time will ensure an integrated and strategic approach is taken to infrastructure development.”

A project reference group has been established to make sure there is appropriate consultation with key stakeholders and the community.

The group includes representatives of Mitcham Council, the Local Government Association of South Australia, the Freight Rail Operators Group and the Australian Rail Track Corporation.

A discussion paper setting out the various options is expected to be released by the end of July 2009, with the full study report completed by the end of October 2009.
perhaps a step closer to removing freight from the belair line?
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#148 Post by Somebody » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:40 pm

perhaps a step closer to removing freight from the belair line?
The last time that a freight train ran over TransAdelaide trackage to Belair was in 1995 ;)

But on the adjacent standard gauge line, yes there is plenty of freight. Been lotsa studies into it yet no result - really needs to be bypassed and the line beyond Belair closed and made a tourist railway possibly. I remember on RailSA the dribblers said the government would be voted out if they did that :wank:
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#149 Post by kenget » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:25 pm

Better late than never... :)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 ... 505621.htm
Truckies benefit from $48m federal funds

By Joe Sullivan

Posted Tue Mar 3, 2009 7:24am AEDT
Updated Tue Mar 3, 2009 8:00am AEDT

Federal funds for SA road projects

Truck drivers are to benefit first from the Federal Government's announcement of more funding for South Australian roads.

Truck stops, rest areas and other maintenance projects will get a total of $48.4 million of funding.

Federal Infrastructure and Transport Minister Anthony Albanese says South Australia will be the first state to benefit.

"Importantly it includes new and upgraded existing truck stops for truck drivers. South Australia will be the first state in the nation to get an upgrade of these rest stops," he said.

"We know that this will create jobs in construction for South Australia."

While in Adelaide today, Mr Albanese will visit a new asphalt plant built for the Northern Expressway project.

"This project will create 85 jobs in the plant itself and [the package] will generate over 1,600 jobs in total."

The federal funding will be used to extend overtaking lanes on the Dukes Highway, widen the Sturt Highway, fix 44 'black spots' on roads across the state, add more boom gates to rail crossings, improve truck stops between Adelaide and Port Augusta and for immediate road maintenance works.

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#150 Post by sarail » Tue May 12, 2009 7:31 pm

The Advertiser wrote:THE O-BAHN busway will be extended through the centre of Adelaide to West Tce as part of a $1.03 billion investment in South Australia's road and rail infrastructure.

Other key SA aspects of the nation-building infrastructure plan - touted as the biggest since the Snowy Mountains scheme - include a $294 million modernisation of the Gawler rail line and a $291 million extension of the Noarlunga rail line to Seaford.

Treasurer Wayne Swan yesterday announced national infrastructure spending totalling $22 billion over four years, in the areas of transport, broadband internet, clean energy, education and health.

Transport received the lion's share of funding, at $8.45 billion, while the $43 billion National Broadband Network received an initial $4.7 billion in this funding cycle.

Nationally, $3.2 billion will be spent on a dual rail link from West Werribee to central Melbourne, and $3.4 billion will be invested in Network 1 - the road freight corridor between Melbourne and Cairns which includes the Hume, Pacific and Bruce highways.

Clean energy projects will receive $4.5 billion, which will be used in part to set up four new solar flagship projects and carbon capture projects.


The modernisation of the 43km Gawler line, which carries about 34 per cent of Adelaide's rail passengers, will involve resleepering and electrification, leading to more efficient and frequent services.

The Noarlunga upgrade will involve the construction of a 5.5km extension from the Noarlunga interchange to Seaford.

New stations will be built at Seaford Meadows and the Seaford rail terminus.

Both rail projects are expected to start in 2010 and are scheduled for completion in 2013.

Another $380 million will be spent on smaller road and rail projects in SA, including an upgrade to the Victor Harbor and South Rd intersection and a duplication of the Sturt Highway between Gawler and Greenock.

Mr Swan said the infrastructure spend supported jobs by "investing in the infrastructure we need for tomorrow".

"Its focus is on an unprecedented push for jobs and productivity, built on the roads, rail, ports and broadband that are the building blocks for sustainable growth," Mr Swan said.

The Budget documents say the infrastructure spending will support an average of around 15,000 jobs each year, peaking at around 18,000 in 2011-12.
Dumbest idea in the history of man - extending the OBahn through the CBD.

Good to see the Gawler and Seaford Extensions are happening though!

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