News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

[monotonehell]

...Re Tindo.

I am happy to ask this as a “question on notice” at the meeting after next as it is too late for the next meeting (deadline was Tuesday).

I certainly have a vision for a fleet of electric busses – only they cost $1mill each!

Good news is I will be asking my fellow councillors to tie down funding for solar panels on the roof of the central market (a clean and green market!) as we have scored $415k from the Feds and need to match that with around $400k of our own.

Thanks muchly. I'll look forward to any information on how things are going. There's a lot of debate on electric transport -- but it's mostly theory.

[skyliner]

Mono, you might be interested to know we once had electric buses (trolley buses), removed in the interests of more efficient transportation by petrol fuelled ones. We had 30 double deckers amongst these - withdrawn in 1958. (source - P8 of 'Development of Street Transport in Adelaide' - official History of the MTT.1907 to 1974). The suburbs were covered in a maze of overhead wires for the electric buses, in addition to the tramline wires.Interesting that things are turning in this direction again!

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE

[monotonehell]

Mono, you might be interested to know we once had electric buses (trolley buses), removed in the interests of more efficient transportation by petrol fuelled ones. We had 30 double deckers amongst these - withdrawn in 1958. (source - P8 of 'Development of Street Transport in Adelaide' - official History of the MTT.1907 to 1974). The suburbs were covered in a maze of overhead wires for the electric buses, in addition to the tramline wires.Interesting that things are turning in this direction again!

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE

I knew that already, but thanks for your post -- others may not be aware.

However Trolley buses with overhead power lines (trams without tracks) are not equal to battery carrying buses. The need to string up powerlines where ever you need to go is a limiting factor, especially where drivers may need to weave in and out of lanes in today's busier traffic. Overhead lines are also a bit of an eyesore (in some people's opinions).

[AtD]

especially where drivers may need to weave in and out of lanes in today's busier traffic

Trolley buses can change lanes. If the cable is strung up in the middle of two lanes, the bus may use either lane. The trolley pole can pivot and is kept on the wire by the grove in the wheels (trolleybuses can't use a pantograph as they must return current to a neutral wire. Bitumen is not conductive). They can not overtake each other.

[monotonehell]

especially where drivers may need to weave in and out of lanes in today's busier traffic

Trolley buses can change lanes. If the cable is strung up in the middle of two lanes, the bus may use either lane. The trolley pole can pivot and is kept on the wire by the grove in the wheels (trolleybuses can't use a pantograph as they must return current to a neutral wire. Bitumen is not conductive). They can not overtake each other.

That's what I meant by "weave", but I wasn't very clear. Buses using the same stop often "leapfrog" each other due to differing loading and unloading patterns.

It's amazing speaking to those of a couple generations ago (parent, grandparents) and reading books about what we had in Adelaide in terms of PT. And how it was all ripped out because "cars gave everyone freedom".

[SRW]

Check this out - you guys will love it!

http://www.id.com.au/adelaide/forecasti ... asp?bhcp=1

All the figures on population growth you could ever want to play with...

Oh, what fun!

[Wayno]

latest newsletter from Clr Plumridge, including:

* A diatribe on why local government matters
* parkland trees - will they survive the drought
* A few minor DAP matters
* Tram extension causes loss of 20 significant trees and a stone cottage
* Solar panels in central markets
* A call for more public awareness of what's happening with community assets
* etc...

NOTES__FROM_COUNCILLOR_Issue_20.pdf

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[Queen Anne]

Thanks Wayno,

It's a bit of a worry about the trees

[Wayno]

Thanks Wayno,

It's a bit of a worry about the trees

i might be wrong, but i believe the "threat of death by drought" is isolated to a couple of hundred substantial gum trees. Nothing to be sneezed at i know, but there are over 500,000 trees in the parklands. I lost count at 501,367...

[SRW]

I hope at the very least the plane trees along North Terrace are being sustained with sufficient water. They have been looking rather stressed...

Other things to note from the newsletter are that: the Fuse Festival is approved to be staged in Light Square (and various other venues) on March 5th; a City Bike Day is proposed to be held in conjunction with Earth Hour 2010; and, an off-road cycleway along the edge of Bonython Park is proposed for when the tramway is extended.

[AtD]

* Tram extension causes loss of 20 significant trees and a stone cottage

Where is this 'stone cottage' they speak of? Is this it?
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... 8930944921

That's more of a stone pumping station.

[Wayno]

* Tram extension causes loss of 20 significant trees and a stone cottage

Where is this 'stone cottage' they speak of? Is this it?
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... 8930944921

That's more of a stone pumping station.

yeah, i think that's the one - on the SA Water site...

[Shuz]

Isn't that, dare I say on... Parklands!?

[Wayno]

Isn't that, dare I say on... Parklands!?

yes - and not a word from a certain parklands character to date!

[AtD]

Thread split by yours truly.

http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... f=4&t=2242