News & Discussion: General CBD Development

[Ben]

This could potentially be great news. Will have to wait a bit longer to find out the dollar value to determine how significant an upgrade this is:

Type: Development Application Received
Application Number: DA/98/2009
Lodgement Date: 5/02/2009
Location: Stamford Plaza Adelaide, 150 North Terrace, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Internal and external alterations including signage.

The estimated value is only $550,000 so i would assume the facade will not be getting a make over, which is dissapointing, however maybe it is a cheap upgrade.

[Omicron]

This could potentially be great news. Will have to wait a bit longer to find out the dollar value to determine how significant an upgrade this is:

Type: Development Application Received
Application Number: DA/98/2009
Lodgement Date: 5/02/2009
Location: Stamford Plaza Adelaide, 150 North Terrace, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Internal and external alterations including signage.

The estimated value is only $550,000 so i would assume the facade will not be getting a make over, which is dissapointing, however maybe it is a cheap upgrade.

If it's that cheap, think new window shades and new light-bulbs for the sign up top.

[Tyler_Durden]

Sorry for going off topic but why the F#*% does every article written in the eastern states have to refer to us as the 'city of churches'!?

Every time this moniker is used tremendous damage is done to our image. There are times when I wish Mike Rann would do a Stalin.

What rubbish.

It is a huge part of Adelaide's history and Adelaide's tolerance of different churches and receiving of immigrants of different religions is part of what has made Adelaide what it is today. Why shouldn't we embrace our history?

hah churches, where? we've got probably 1 "small" cathedral and it just happens to be in a lot of the pics of our skyline...

the city of Cologne is more of a city of church, and its got one of the worlds largest cathedrals:

It's funny you mention a German city, when it was the persecution of Germans in their homeland due to their religious beliefs that led to so many moving to Adelaide in the 1800s. Many of Adelaide's searly settlers were so-called "Religious Refugees". And because of those Germans, in particular, the Barossa Valley is now what it is, to give just one example of their contributions.

I don't think you have any understanding at all of why Adelaide is known as the City of Churches. It is not referring to the number of Church buidlings. It never has been.

[Will]

Sorry for going off topic but why the F#*% does every article written in the eastern states have to refer to us as the 'city of churches'!?

Every time this moniker is used tremendous damage is done to our image. There are times when I wish Mike Rann would do a Stalin.

What rubbish.

It is a huge part of Adelaide's history and Adelaide's tolerance of different churches and receiving of immigrants of different religions is part of what has made Adelaide what it is today. Why shouldn't we embrace our history?

hah churches, where? we've got probably 1 "small" cathedral and it just happens to be in a lot of the pics of our skyline...

the city of Cologne is more of a city of church, and its got one of the worlds largest cathedrals:

It's funny you mention a German city, when it was the persecution of Germans in their homeland due to their religious beliefs that led to so many moving to Adelaide in the 1800s. Many of Adelaide's searly settlers were so-called "Religious Refugees". And because of those Germans, in particular, the Barossa Valley is now what it is, to give just one example of their contributions.

I don't think you have any understanding at all of why Adelaide is known as the City of Churches. It is not referring to the number of Church buidlings. It never has been.

Trust me, I completely understand why Adelaide is called the City of Churches. However we live in a country where there is a sizeable percentage of the population which has no idea why we celebrate Australia Day. As such, how many people out there do you think know that we got the moniker because our state was established as a haven of religious tolerance? Not many I presume. If the majority of the population knew why we got that moniker I would have no problem with it. However in reality people think that we are the city of churches because we are such a boring place that going to church is all there is to do. But in addition, ask the average person out there to name the words that come to mind when they think of churches, I am confident that the majority would not be positive.

[thechap]

If the majority of the population knew why we got that moniker I would have no problem with it. However in reality people think that we are the city of churches because we are such a boring place that going to church is all there is to do.

Do you really think Australians are that stupid?

Will, most people understand why we are called the city of churches. And why is there anything that wrong with being called the city of churches? It is immature and naieve of you to suggest that we may be thought less of by other states / countries if this is our moniker. SA is also called the festival state and as far as I can tell we don't have that many more festivals than other states these days, but I don't see you getting all riled up about that label. You obviously have some personal insecurities to do with christianity, but it's not fair to suggest that we lose part of our history for it mate. Besides, I think its an apt name - out in greater adelaide, there is a church every few blocks, they're everywhere!

[Wayno]

If the majority of the population knew why we got that moniker I would have no problem with it. However in reality people think that we are the city of churches because we are such a boring place that going to church is all there is to do.

Do you really think Australians are that stupid?

I don't think they are that stupid - but Will has a point. I'm sure the notion of Adelaide being a place "chocka full of churches" conjours up all sorts of wierdo thoughts in the minds of those who have never visited SA...

But we are off topic...

[crawf]

I don't know many people who know why we used to be called the 'City of Churches, many people just think its because the city has more churches per captia when infact that is incorrect.

[Mants]

i don't know many people who care.

next please.

[Prince George]

It's a shame they don't mean the shoes, although the "City of Church's" would have to be Northampton. Perhaps we could be the "City of John Lobb, Bootmaker"?

[Will]

If the majority of the population knew why we got that moniker I would have no problem with it. However in reality people think that we are the city of churches because we are such a boring place that going to church is all there is to do.

Do you really think Australians are that stupid?

Will, most people understand why we are called the city of churches. And why is there anything that wrong with being called the city of churches? It is immature and naieve of you to suggest that we may be thought less of by other states / countries if this is our moniker. SA is also called the festival state and as far as I can tell we don't have that many more festivals than other states these days, but I don't see you getting all riled up about that label. You obviously have some personal insecurities to do with christianity, but it's not fair to suggest that we lose part of our history for it mate. Besides, I think its an apt name - out in greater adelaide, there is a church every few blocks, they're everywhere!

Wayno is right in saying that this discussion is off topic. Let us continue it where it belongs:

http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... &start=510

[AtD]

Nearly had a heart attack when I read "construct 5 level building on King William st", however luckily it is King William Rd North Adelaide. I'm not sure exactly where this is though... somewhere in the parklands

Type: Development Application Received
Application Number: DA/473/2008
Lodgement Date: 23/06/2008
Location: 53-79 King William Road, NORTH ADELAIDE SA 5006
Description: Construct 5 level residential building with basement car parking on vacant land.

Any further news on this one? Posted June last year.

[Ben]

Nearly had a heart attack when I read "construct 5 level building on King William st", however luckily it is King William Rd North Adelaide. I'm not sure exactly where this is though... somewhere in the parklands

Type: Development Application Received
Application Number: DA/473/2008
Lodgement Date: 23/06/2008
Location: 53-79 King William Road, NORTH ADELAIDE SA 5006
Description: Construct 5 level residential building with basement car parking on vacant land.

Any further news on this one? Posted June last year.

Yes this one is on hold as of August last year.

[AtD]

Today's AFR Property section opens with the headline “GDI sees gold in Adelaide office block.” I don't think I've ever seen Adelaide grab the lead story in the AFR before! Sydney based GDI Property is in due diligence to acquire the Grenfell Centre for $80 million, a yield of 9%. The building is 25,200sqm and is rented at an average of $291/sqm. “Comparable buildings in Adelaide have attracted more than $400/sqm”

[Adelarch]

interesting read, hopefully proves true!


Adelaide demand holds up
SARAH MARTIN, Adelaide Now
March 10, 2009 12:30am

BUSINESS forecaster BIS Shrapnel says Adelaide's apartment market will remain resilient in 2009, despite a grim picture emerging in other capital cities.

BIS Shrapnel senior economist Jason Anderson said Adelaide would be less affected by the credit constraints causing large numbers of apartment deferrals in Sydney and Brisbane, and to a lesser extent in Melbourne.

Figures from the company showed the construction of 16,623 apartments and townhouses had been abandoned or deferred in these three eastern state markets in the year to January 2009.

He said the figures included projects that were yet to be approved.

Mr Anderson said Adelaide's market fundamentals were different and large numbers of deferrals were unlikely.

"In a market like Adelaide you have got a small number of projects that will make or break activity and if it hasn't happened by now than I don't think it will," he said.

Mr Anderson said demand had held up in Adelaide and pre-sale figures remained strong. "I think the demand side will pick up substantially this year, particularly if the first homebuyers grant is extended," he said.

Hines Property, developer of the $70 million Conservatory on Hindmarsh project and 20 Hindmarsh Square, said strong owner-occupier demand had led to increased sales and rising median apartment prices.

Hines Property director James Hines said 53 apartments in the Conservatory would be settled in June at an average price of $703,000.

He attributed up-market owner-occupiers for driving the sector which was traditionally dominated by student housing and investors.

"Very high levels of pre-construction commitment for both projects . . . demonstrates the depth of demand for similar quality projects," he said.

Mr Hines said he was confident demand in the apartment sector would remain high because of Adelaide's low residential vacancy rate, low interest rates and strong defence, mining and education sectors.

[Ben]

This was initially approved in April last year. it appears they are pressing ahead. I'm not sure of what the plans involve.

DA/125/2008/A
11/03/2009
Development Application Received
Variation to previous authorisation - Internal and external alterations to existing retail building with six (6) new tenancies at ground floor, facade upgrade and signage - VARIATION - Erect illuminated Blade sign to canopy along with signage to central metal clad column facing Rundle Mall WOOLWORTHS, 78-88 Rundle Mall, ADELAIDE SA 5000