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[Will]

I don't get why the state government doesn't do something about this height restriction. Every other city in the world seems to work around their flight path issues yet Adelaide still has this cap on it. If they want to know why Adelaide isn't a more popular tourist destination and why it's sometimes regarded as a bit of a joke that's your reason. It looks ridiculous having this sprawl of low rises with the lone Santos building sticking up in the middle of it. It doesn't look too impressive on a postcard.

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Because we all know people travel to see skyscrapers....

Using this logic no-one would go to Europe!

Erm, Europe has a fuckload of history and gorgeous architecture people will travel to see. It'll never be considered a joke. Adelaide is kinda stuck out in the donga with a reputation that nearly drives people away. It is considered a bit of a joke and it's skyline does look completely ridiculous. Just say you're about to travel to Australia and you're wondering which cities to visit, having a look at aerial shots of the capitals yoú probably wouldn't think twice about Adelaide. Considering Adelaide doesn't have a whole lot to offer a tourist it'd certainly help it's cause to look a bit more picturesque.

If skyscrapers are such a large factor in determining whether a person travels to a city or not, can you enlighten us as to why in travel brochures and travel guides you will not find skyscrapers listed as tourist attractions?

By the way, how old are you?

[Al]

I travelled to Kuala Lumpur to see the Petronas Towers and Hong Kong to see the harbour (which contains lots of skyscrapers.) That's not the only reason I went there but it was something I wanted to see. Just my own reasons so don't flame me.

[Will]

I travelled to Kuala Lumpur to see the Petronas Towers and Hong Kong to see the harbour (which contains lots of skyscrapers.) That's not the only reason I went there but it was something I wanted to see. Just my own reasons so don't flame me.

The Petronas Towers and Hong Kong are very different cases. Just like New York.

What I am argueing is that buildings such as Santos House are not tourist attractions. People do not travel to see such buildings. It would be like if I decided to travel to Perth simply because of the Bankwest Tower.

When I went to Melbourne, the skyline did not determine whether I went or not. Likewise I travelled to Tasmania earlier this year, even though Hobart is the Australian capital with the least impressive skyline. People travel to SA because of wine, nature, historic places, quaint country towns.... Even if we had 200 or 300 more high rises there would not be an increase in the number of arrivals because people do not travel to see office buildings or apartment towers un-less they have an observation deck. Rialto Towers in Melbourne would not be tourist attraction if it did not have the observation deck!

I am not having a go at you Al, I am simply adding more information to my previous post.

[rogue]

Erm, Europe has a fuckload of history and gorgeous architecture people will travel to see.....

There's a bit of difference when you visit a city for historical significance. If any of Adelaide’s current buildings are still standing in 1000 years, we may then draw the history buffs.

If your exaggerated plan ever came to fruition, I couldn’t see too many people coming to Adelaide just because it has a “fuckloadâ€

[Al]

Like I said, buildings were not the only reason I went to a place and I don't think many people would just visit a place for that reason. The New York Twin Towers may be an exception here.

However, I think there is an appeal when visiting a city that has lots of tall buildings just because it gives you the feeling of seeing something dynamic and interesting. I think it's a subconscious thing. I don't know if everyone feels this way but I like big cities because of this feeling but I understand people visit places for many reasons including heritage and culture.

I think Europe has some great history and it's evident in its culture and its buildings. I think people would go and see that. The US and other places have bright lights and 'new' attractions and this appeals to others.

I don't think anyone is wrong here except to suggest that you can say all people are the same and like the same things for the same reasons. BTW, I think maybe we should move this onto a separate thread...

[Maximus_Marc]

I think its so stupid if people choose wether to travel to a city based on how big its skyline and skyscrapers are. Say if you wanted to go on a holiday and were looking at two postcards, one a picture of Hong Kong, the other a picture of Cairns. It would literally be like choosing between an environmental 'dead zone' and an unrivalled oasis. What would you choose? Do skyscrapers suddenly seem so enticing?

I'm glad Adelaide doesn't base its tourism on how big or how many buildings are it the city and it never will, Adelaide has so much natural beauty surrounding it we don't need to use city buildings as a last resort to attract people. What we do need to continually boost tourism is more interstate/international advertising.

*Nice to the port power boys, who are going to london to play geelong for an exhibition game, are gonna be kicking footballs into the crowd after the game with the new South Australia - A Brilliant Blend - campagin printed on 'em*

[Al]

I think its so stupid if people choose wether to travel to a city based on how big its skyline and skyscrapers are.

It's not stupid. It's just a preference. Just like people who like Holdens over Fords. The trick is to entice one over from the other and advertising helps but you can only attract a limited market if you only have limited things to promote, unless you flatly lie and that has obvious downsides.

[Pikey]

So, Spire hey...

[Al]

So, Spire hey...

Yes. Back on track people.

[crawf]

Sorry guys, but i just have to reply to this comment

Considering Adelaide doesn't have a whole lot to offer a tourist it'd certainly help it's cause to look a bit more picturesque.

Adelaide has heaps of things to do, its just that many locals are to blind to see it.

Such as the World-renowned festivals and events (Fringe, Arts Festival, Clipsal500, WOMADelaide, Tour Down Under, Tasting Australia)' Adelaide Zoo; North Terrace Precinct (SA Muesum,Art Gallery,Casino etc...); Rundle Mall Shopping Precinct; Restaurant Precincts of Rundle St, Gouger St, Norwood Parade, O'Connell St & Henley Square; World-renowned Central Markets; Glenelg Attractions (Holdfast Marina & Jetty Road); Port Adelaide & Semaphore Attractions (museums, historic buildings, u/c newquays precinct); Upmarket shopping & dining precinct of King William & Unley Roads. Plus the Adelaide CBD is right near the Black Hill, Cleland, Beliar and Anstey Hill conservation parks (where you can go bushwalking).

The Adelaide Hills which is just minutes from the city has many wineries, attractions and beautiful villages such as the German town of Hahndorf, Stirling, Aldgate, Lobethal and a few more. Then youve got the World-famous wine regions of the Barossa Valley and the Southern Vales, which are just a easy 1 hour from the city.

I could go on for ever, but i have heaps of assignments to complete.

rant complete

[Snorkie]

This thread is bit off topic... does anyone know what is actually happening with spire? Someone mentioned here or on SSC that apartments were gonna go on sale in september, it is clearly now october and i havent seen anything. Anyone know more than me? [/img][/url]

[AtD]

Last time I wondered past, it was still being used as a car park, but this time for Cavisham rather than the coureer company.

[Snorkie]

Last time I wondered past, it was still being used as a car park, but this time for Cavisham rather than the coureer company.

Yeah my point exactly, nothing has happened. I think that spire needs to get its shit together with this (although it may not be up to them), cause i read an article a few days ago in the advertiser saying that Adelaide is in its biggest CBD apartment boom ever, with something like 130 Cbd apartments being sold in september alone. Thats a lot of apartments to be sold in one month, so i think spire would be wise to put it to market soon if they wanna cash in quick.

[Pistol]

Last time I wondered past, it was still being used as a car park, but this time for Cavisham rather than the coureer company.

Yeah my point exactly, nothing has happened. I think that spire needs to get its shit together with this (although it may not be up to them), cause i read an article a few days ago in the advertiser saying that Adelaide is in its biggest CBD apartment boom ever, with something like 130 Cbd apartments being sold in september alone. Thats a lot of apartments to be sold in one month, so i think spire would be wise to put it to market soon if they wanna cash in quick.

Which Advertiser was that?

[Snorkie]

Which Advertiser was that?

What do you mean which Adevertiser? How many do you know??? Dont remember exactly but it may have been mondays or tuesdays. Was gonna get the article, but read it while was at work and then forgot about it, and only remembered now. Actually was a pretty good article if anyone still has it and can be bothered posting it...