News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

[Wayno]

latest from Clr Plumridge:

NOTES__FROM_COUNCILLOR_Issue_22.pdf

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includes:
* parking fines issued by mobile phone?
* use of scarce water for trees as a priority (instead of watering event spaces)
* A complaint about the no. of festivals in the parklands (5 music events are too many!) *sigh*
* various DAP topics
* etc...

[Clr Yarwood]

You may want to follow the comments thread on the following article.

Frankly I am disgusted that the Advertiser publishes such abusive and inaccurate information about the council and its members.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 82,00.html

[Wayno]

You may want to follow the comments thread on the following article.

Frankly I am disgusted that the Advertiser publishes such abusive and inaccurate information about the council and its members.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 82,00.html

Stephen, we too are regularly disgusted by the Advertiser and AdelaideNow. Journalist integrity is a rare commodity it seems...

[Shuz]

Plumridge's complaints about music festival noise is just utter b*******. You say you want our parklands to be utilised, full of people, energy activity - that brings noise. If a music festival (and that is what they are - _MUSIC_ festivals) will bring energy, activity, and people to the parklands - then let them do so! I don't care if 50 year old Anne Moron can't hear her cat miaow in her haunted house. These people should know, that if you live next to a park, with that, comes noise - because they are a PUBLIC place. Don't live next to one if you don't want to hear the noise.

[monotonehell]

Plumridge's complaints about music festival noise is just utter b*******. You say you want our parklands to be utilised, full of people, energy activity - that brings noise. If a music festival (and that is what they are - _MUSIC_ festivals) will bring energy, activity, and people to the parklands - then let them do so! I don't care if 50 year old Anne Moron can't hear her cat miaow in her haunted house. These people should know, that if you live next to a park, with that, comes noise - because they are a PUBLIC place. Don't live next to one if you don't want to hear the noise.

I agree with Shuz here - it is utter bother... that's what you were saying yes? Events bring life to Adelaide. Wandering down Rundle Street this evening I found an acoustic band playing jaunty music outside of The Exeter pub. They were seated at one of the smokers' tables. I'm unsure if this was an actual booked venue or an impromptu performance -- either way it was enjoyed by patrons and passers by. More of this sort of thing I say.

But I also agree with a subpoint of Cnr. Plumridge -- events should pay a bit more toward remediation of sites. I'm speaking to the wear and tear on grass cover and in some cases trees and shrubs. I know UPark take (or at least used to take) advice from the Parklands Rangers as to whether a site can be used for parking for events or when it needs to be left to recover for a period.

[david]

Now lets be fair,
I am not against the Park Lands being used by all groups in the community just so long as there is some consideration given to other people. My concern is about the number of events in [one place - this time Bonython Park, with events that run for over 10 hours straight. Its not actually volume that is the problem so much as the continual low-frequency bass beat which you just can't escape and over 10 hours takes it toll on all and sundry including the elderly, students and hospital patients and quite a few young people who want to be able to enjpy other pursuits.

In my notes I conceded that the GoUD and the Fringe event was going well (over a period of 30 days and nights) and I agree entirely about the great atmosphere in the East End during the festival period. So lets be reasonable and all share the benefits of living in one of the worlds most liveable cities.

By the way, Anne Moran doesn't have a cat as far as I know...........David.

[Omicron]

Now lets be fair,
By the way, Anne Moran doesn't have a cat as far as I know...........David.

Haha, nicely slipped in there.

[Wayno]

Is this a generational change unfolding before our eyes?

The parklands have been a place of solitude for a looong time, and the majority of nearby residents have become accustomed to this fact. However ACC endorsed plans to vastly grow the CBD population will put pressure in the other direction. Many new CBD residents will expect a lively atmosphere! it will be an interesting tussle...

Obviously, elected Councillors must be aligned to their constituency, i wonder if their allegience will evolve with the changing demographic?

[Clr Yarwood]

For the record I support music events in the parklands – I had a brilliant time at WOMAD but was really disappointed by Kings of Leon last night...you could tell they have been touring for 10 months.

I am a mad keen music fan with an iTunes collection of around 70 gig and think the more events the merrier.

What I think we should do is have far better systems in place to make sure the events run smoothly and that we can minimise the impact on residents and the parklands. What better place to party in these summer months?!

Kudos to David for commenting here by the way – for the record he is brilliant on the technology side of things and keeps me honest there!

[AtD]

Bonython Park is to be used for Music in the Park from 4 to 11pm on Friday 17 April. Council understands that many
Nth Adelaide residents are distressed by the excessive and prolonged noise from such events; strict noise controls will be
enforced and residents will be letter-boxed in a wider area than in the past. It is worth noting that this event will cater
for 5000 patrons paying over $90 each. The organiser will walk away with over $400,000 and pay Council a paltry
$2500 fee! Such an event in my opinion is of little or no value to the city so why should our residents have to put
up with it? This is the 5th all-day musical event inflicted on Bonython Park this season. Some say this is at least 3
too many. I will vote against any future events that run for more than 4 hours in Bonython Park and I will move to
have sound monitoring done by a professional engineer employed by the Council and at the organisers expense

I can see why Transport SA is removing "The Festival State" from registration plates. Misrepresentations such as "the organiser will walk away with over $400,000," as if the only expense faced is the ACC fee, do nothing for the negative view the ACC receives in the mainstream media. It is unfortunate that the model of local government practiced in SA sees the state capital treated by some as if it were a quiet suburb.

[Shuz]

Councillors; Here's a proposal - Why not have designated 'event zones' for festivals being held in the parklands? There's a lot of parks - so if you're concerned about noise in Bonython Park, and the remediation of the land in between events; simply designate it to an event, and switch the locations of other events? I know March is a busy time, but surely for example: Womad has rights to Botanic Park, GoUD in Rundle Park, Fringe in Rymill Park, Clipsal in Victoria Park (North), Future in Bonython Park (West). I can't think of other festivals at the moment, but there's still a lot of areas to be utilised; Victoria Park (South), the 5 sections of the Southern Parklands (I particularly want to note the two adjacent the tramline) Kingston Gardens, Adelaide High Schoolgrounds, Bonython Park (East). We should even go so far to allow inner-city events within Whitmore, Victoria, Wellington and Light Squares! Share the load around, rather than having such large concentrations in Bonython Park.

I see it as a win win; the Parklands as a whole get utilised more often. The lands can remediate properly (think of it as crop rotation), therefore making them more presentable to the next users of the location. You know its a good idea!

[omada]

Councillors, nimby's, old people - wear some ear muffs or move else-where if you are concerned with people having a good time, the parklands are there to be used!

For too long people like you have held sway over our city! Your time is gone - now go away and may you rest in peace.

[Will]

Now lets be fair,
I am not against the Park Lands being used by all groups in the community just so long as there is some consideration given to other people. My concern is about the number of events in [one place - this time Bonython Park, with events that run for over 10 hours straight. Its not actually volume that is the problem so much as the continual low-frequency bass beat which you just can't escape and over 10 hours takes it toll on all and sundry including the elderly, students and hospital patients and quite a few young people who want to be able to enjpy other pursuits.

In my notes I conceded that the GoUD and the Fringe event was going well (over a period of 30 days and nights) and I agree entirely about the great atmosphere in the East End during the festival period. So lets be reasonable and all share the benefits of living in one of the worlds most liveable cities.

By the way, Anne Moran doesn't have a cat as far as I know...........David.

It is great that you are commenting on here Councillor, however could one not argue that in our era, it is expected that the CBD of a capital city has constant noise?

Like AtD commented, the CBD is not a quiet suburb, and thus should not be treated as such.

And also I would like to point out that such opposition to the use of the parklands for music festivals harbors resentment towards the ACC in the wider community, but also reinforces stereotypes that people have about the ACC and Adelaide in general; i.e. a place that is quiet and boring.

[mooshie]

I live on east terrace and I think all this activity is awesome! A 200m walk to get home from Future Music is very easy on the legs. Aside from one share house in our street we are the youngest residents and I am 30 which I find a bit odd , are these older people the ones complaining?
These events draw huge crowds now because of their proximity to the city and easy access to public transport.
I have been going to similar events for 10 years and we used to be lucky to get 5000 people with half doing something naughty to get home.
Now we get some 17000 people to Future Music, we should be proud, I went to this in Sydney and it usually pulls about 25-30000, there is a much more positive vibe about Adelaide from the younger generation.
Bring on Groove I say!

[Mants]

One of the reason's Adelaide is known as the festival state is because of the cheap and easy access to venues within the parklands.

Organisers of exciting music festivals such as WOMADelaide, The Fringe, Clipsal, Soundwave, Future, Stereosonic, Parklife, Groove in the Park, etc. continue to host their events here, and as a result, the vibe in the Adelaide parklands lifts dramatically. What reason would thousands of people have to go to Bonython Park if an event such as Soundwave wasn't there? These cheap costs come as an added bonus, as opposed to venues interstate, where event organisers must pay hefty rental costs.

I absolutely fail to see how councilors and anybody else for that matter can be opposed to bringing life to our city.

IMO Big Day Out should also be held in the parklands, as well as other future events which we may have the opportunity to host.