Aidan wrote:adam73837 wrote:I hate to be a pest (well sometimes I find it slightly amusing that everyone's against me on the issue, but only
sometimes 
), but do people see what I meant when i said South Road wouldn't be able to cope? Maybe (or rather
hopefully 
) once they have completely finished the work, the traffic will be smoother, but to people see, by those select photos, what I meant when I said a two-lane-each-way-with bike-lanes,-etc.-road wouldn't be able to cope as the North-South Corridor of a city with a population of (according to the government's hopes) 2 million people by 2040 or whatever it is?
I absolutely see what you mean. However your conclusion
may be incorrect, for two reasons: firstly I've seen roads in England upgraded in that way, and they can cope with a lot. Secondly, there are alternatives to South Road. In both the northern and southern suburbs there are a lot of parallel roads.
Yes there are a lot of roads in the Northern and Southern Suburbs that are parallel to South Road. Just on your comment about English Roads being upgraded in a similar way, do you think that since Adelaide is such a North-South Orientated city, it would be a good idea to include grade separations on the East-West Routes, then have the Tollway(s
) (which I'll discuss later in my post) serving the North-South Route?
Aidan wrote:that's the reason why a tunnel under the City is so important.
I definitely agree that a railway tunnel under the city, like you put forward in your plan is VERY important. The benefits that it would give to the City Square Mile would be incredible. I also agree that:
Aidan wrote:the nation is in no danger whatsoever of going bankrupt. If anything it's not investing enough in infrastructure.
I agree with you 100%. My dad went to a conference several months ago where one of ANZs top bankers gave a presentation about going into debt (... or something like that
). He said that there is nothing wrong with going into debt with infrastructure which you will get a return from. An underground railway and a tollway would both generate such revenue (...eventually
).
Aidan wrote:There was a long term plan to link Marion Road with Hanson Road. Obviously this would involve aligning it and Holbrooks Road, though quite how Holbrooks and Hanson Roads would be linked I don't know. Nor do I know if the plan is still on the official long term agenda, but it could be done if necessary.
Aidan wrote:If we do ever need an underground tollway, I now think it would be better to construct it under Morphett Road and Findon Road, serving Adelaide Airport directly.
Speaking of which, since my last 'era of posts'
I took your suggestions on board and have been doing sketches looking at different routes for such a thing. I have also been looking at books about European Cities and if there's one thing I've noticed that cities like London, Manchester, Paris, Munich and Stuttgart (which I just finished a project on in SACE Stage 1 German Continuers) is that the all have ring roads, etc. Building a tollway like the one you mention to go beneath Marion Road, serve the airport, etc. then head towards Dry Creek via Holbrooks Road, East Terrace, Rosetta Street, Days Road and South Road wouldn't be such a bad idea. it would also serve well in bypassing freight from the city and, if built in conjunction with a connection to the S-E Freeway, would serve Adelaide very well. Other than these two, I don't think that Adelaide needs to be overrun with freeways like in cities such as LA
and Dallas. An extensive and efficient PT System would 'fill in the gaps' ensuring that Adelaide comes close to regaining its status as a 20 minute city.
Just as an after thought, do you think it would be a good idea to have 'exits' from this North-South Corridor to go along the old Glenelg Railway Corridor for the Traffic to/from the South to access the city and from the North-South Corridor to have something along Port Road for the Traffic to/from the North to access the city?
