News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

[metro]

"10 floors is too tall" keeps coming to mind with the Adelaide City Counil and developements in this city

I wonder if the Adelaide city council has heard of this booming city in the United Arab Emirates - called Dubai. Thats what a developers dream looks like.

[monotonehell]

I wonder if the Adelaide city council has heard of this booming city in the United Arab Emirates - called Dubai. Thats what a developers dream looks like.

What the one that's pretty much bankrupted itself?

Height limitations aren't the be all and end all (although I'd like to see them more formally raised than just "the ceiling can be pierced on a case by case basis with merit).

What Prince George wrote above is where the problem lays. That coupled with the fact that developers wont put more money than is necessary into DESIGN because all they are looking at is the bottom line.

Raising building heights will just result in taller bland boxes, IIF developers can sell the floor space.


So what we need is a load of tenants, who need load of floor space, a developer with a wad of cash, who's not afraid to pay some talented architects their worth, who then design something aesthetically pleasing that will be passed by the development authorities.

Then and only then will we see some architecture that may go on to become an icon for Adelaide. But that's a LOT of boxes to tick. So (and this goes for everyone on S-A, in the media, the council and in the special interest groups) quit trying to lay blame on one particular door for what we receive. We need all the groups to work together, instead of trying to one up each other all the time.

[omada]

Monotonehell wrote: So what we need is a load of tenants, who need load of floor space, a developer with a wad of cash, who's not afraid to pay some talented architects their worth, who then design something aesthetically pleasing that will be passed by the development authorities.

Then and only then will we see some architecture that may go on to become an icon for Adelaide. But that's a LOT of boxes to tick. So (and this goes for everyone on S-A, in the media, the council and in the special interest groups) quit trying to lay blame on one particular door for what we receive. We need all the groups to work together, instead of trying to one up each other all the time.

You make it sound so hard, like its a miracle that it could even take place - it's not, if Perth, Brisbane etc etc can do it, we can too.. There IS one particular group we can blame (or at least is more culpable), I need not even mention who (just conjure a bunch of out of touch, over paid, baby boomers).

[Prince George]

When I think about that stupendously boring monstrosity on King William St (which I try not to do), I can hardly accept that there is only one culprit. And I'm curious, what buildings have been erected in Perth or Brisbane that are "Oooh, aaah" material?

[Howie]

Slightly off-topic... as you know yesterday the city was flooded, basement of the unisa reid building on frome road was flooded with reports of smashing glass, high voltage lines, students trapped, and worse still the basement is where the lab animals are kept.. most of them would've perished. There has been word that the recent construction works with the council's frome road botanical gardens redevelopment might have been responsible for diverting the course of water that would normally run off to the torrens. Could be some heads rolling over this one.

[mgb]

A little more in the flooding in the Reid building was posted on the ABC news site.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 ... ion=justin

At the University of SA's Reid building in Frome Road in the city, stormwater flooded the basement.
Greg Howard from the Metropolitan Fire Service (MFS) says the clean-up will take some time.
"The building's approximately 70-80 metres long by about 30 metres wide so I'd suggest we'd be pumping water for most of the day," he said.
"Then they're gonna have to get all the mud and debris out as well so there's a lot of water damage."
David Scarce from the MFS says water was about 2.5 metres high by the time emergency crews arrived.
"All of the doors are swollen so they've all had to be smashed to get into all of the rooms so there's quite a bit of structural damage in the way of doors and door frames in the basement and uni property, all of the fixtures and fittings that were in the basement have all been damaged by floodwater and mud," he said.
Uni SA says some researchers and students at the Reid building will be set back by months in their research because of the flooding.
Some rats and guinea pigs drowned in the nutrition research building basement, but many other animals survived because their containers floated.

When I drove down Frome Road yesterday after the storms had passed there was a lot of water still flowing down from the construction works area.

[Maps3D]

Hi All. First post but have been reading the feedback on the ACC 3D model. It looks like it has been well received. Thanks for the comments it is nice to see that what you have been working on is appreciated. Credit to Adelaide City Council for doing this as it really is a cutting edge application.
Please check it out again as this morning we have placed a heap more buildings in the southern area of the city. Thanks again.
PS.. Norman...nice work on the video from the launch

[Howie]

Hello and Welcome Maps3D, I saw your posting on SkyscraperCity forum today. I take it you were in that photo from the article

Please extend our congratulations to your team and yourself for the brilliant effort you guys have put in.

[skyliner]

Again off topic - How much rain did you get there?

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE

[Omicron]

And for goodness sake - an application is an application is an application - the public deserves to be able to see the 3D model form of applications made to the ACC (if they are of the public notification class/type).

[mattblack]

Again off topic - How much rain did you get there?

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE

About 20mm in an hour.

[skyliner]

That's QLD style! Fabulous for the water supply in Adelaide. I see on the weather that it's rained right through to now - storms to day (26/9/09).

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[mattblack]

That's QLD style! Fabulous for the water supply in Adelaide. I see on the weather that it's rained right through to now - storms to day (26/9/09).

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE

Reservoirs @ about 85% so crisis averted for now.

[Brando]

Michael Harbison wants to ban gum sales in Adelaide
LORD Mayor Michael Harbison is calling for the sale of chewing gum to be banned in Adelaide unless distributors pay to have it removed from city streets.

Mr Harbison will lobby colleagues at a council meeting on Monday night to draft a radical new by-law that could lead to a gum prohibition in the CBD and North Adelaide.

Mr Harbison said the council spent more than $200,000 a year on gum removal and distributors must be forced to take responsibility for the mess.

"People find the gum-smeared footpaths revolting to look at and it's the source of much complaint," Mr Harbison said.

"Every time a council rings up and complains about the cost of cleaning up chewing gum, they (the companies) say 'the solution is education'.

"They will need to demonstrate that they have the gum under control, either by education or as a last resort by removing it from the city streets, before they get permission to sell.

"It's their chewing gum, it's not ours."

Mr Harbison will also consider asking the State Government to introduce legislation to prevent councils being burdened with multimillion-dollar gum clean-up costs.

People dropping gum on city streets can be fined $315 under existing litter laws.

Gum giant Wrigley markets more than 90 per cent of Australia's gum, including popular brands Hubba Bubba, Juicy Fruit and Extra.

Asia-Pacific Region corporate affairs director Catherine Pemberton said disposing of gum was a "personal responsibility".

"Most people do dispose of their litter, including gum, responsibly," she said.

"Only a small number of people don't do the right thing, so it's important to remind people that they must put all their litter, including gum, into the bin.

"If everyone does this, then the problem doesn't exist."

Councillor and lord mayoral candidate Anne Moran said low-stick pavement should be laid throughout the city to make gum removal easier.

"I don't think we should be going down this Singaporean, nanny-state route of prohibition," she said.

"You've got to pick your battles and this is one that's way out of our universe as a council."

Local Government Association director of government relations and communications Chris Russell said removing chewing gum was a major cost to councils and ratepayers.

"The LGA is not aware of any other council looking at a similar by-law, but we will be interested in liaising with Adelaide City Council about how they explore this issue," he said.

Anne Moran is correct on this one....What is he thinking...

While your at it, go after the tobacco companies too.

[crawf]

This is one of the rare moments where I agree with Anne Moran!