News & Discussion: Other Metropolitan Developments

[fabricator]

Some old suburbs have too many roads IMHO, by which I mean not every road needs to go straight through.

But these modern housing estates are the pits, they can't even put in one decent road to serve as a bus route. Seems to be policy to direct all traffic to one or two minor roads, use as few ways out as possible, then wonder why you have traffic problems. Only the Police would think one access road for 300 odd houses is a good idea.

Interesting project, I'll have to actually look at this one.

[Xaragmata]

A few pics from Wednesday, starting here: http://xaragmata.mooo.com/album/adelaid ... _9206.html

[AtD]

Flinders Uni had an ad in yesterday's AFR Property requesting submissions of proposals to construct new accommodation on their campus.

It sounds like a horrible place to live as a student. What's weekend PT like there?

[Will]

Flinders Uni had an ad in yesterday's AFR Property requesting submissions of proposals to construct new accommodation on their campus.

It sounds like a horrible place to live as a student. What's weekend PT like there?

Flinders University as an academic institution is really good. However in terms of the vibe it is a horrible place to live and study. You are isolated, there is almost no choice regarding food and as inferred PT is not that good on weekends.

[peas_and_corn]

Flinders Uni had an ad in yesterday's AFR Property requesting submissions of proposals to construct new accommodation on their campus.

It sounds like a horrible place to live as a student. What's weekend PT like there?

Flinders University as an academic institution is really good. However in terms of the vibe it is a horrible place to live and study. You are isolated, there is almost no choice regarding food and as inferred PT is not that good on weekends.

During the week the 7-- buses are pretty frequent, and the buses to Marion shopping centre are pretty good. Friday nights (when I went, anyway) had reasonable bus services for students going out to drink after starting at the tav. However, things might have changed in the past 3 years.

[Norman]

From The Messenger: http://guardian-messenger.whereilive.co ... een-light/

Oaklands Park wetland given green light

A $5.25 million wetlands will be established in Oaklands Park after the State Government transferred the final piece of the puzzle 2.3ha of Transport Department land to Marion Council.

The announcement was made by Environment Minister Jay Weatherill at a public protest over the stalled project by members of the Oaklands Estate Residents Association, on the weekend (Sunday, September 20).

As reported by the Guardian Messenger in June, the wetlands, between Oaklands Rd and Oaklands Reserve, are expected to provide up to 600 megalitres of water a year through aquifer recharge to water local ovals, schools and new housing developments.

Former Oaklands Estate president David Bolton said the residents group had fought for the plan for 11 years.

“We were stunned, shocked and bewildered that we got what we wanted delivered on a plate (on Sunday),” he said.

“It’s an awesome announcement.”

As previously reported by the Guardian Messenger the project was first proposed by the council in the mid-1990s but had been held up by the Transport Department, which was unable to find a suitable venue to re-establish the decommissioned driver training centre.

Mayor Felicity-ann Lewis said it was a “fantastic win for the community”.

“These things always present challenges ... but we know it’s one that’s well supported by the community,” she said.

Will be interesting how this one will turn out, and how they integrate the wetland into the area.

[Omicron]

A good result indeed.

Incidentally, I'm surprised that the Warradale Barracks are still there.

[Xaragmata]

While Bowden & Cheltenham get the publicity, City Edge in the heart of Brompton has quietly been proceeding, in the area roughly
bounded by Hawker, West, First and Brown Streets ...

The web site is a bit flaky & not currently loading - http://www.brompton.com.au/
The stage map is at http://www.brompton.com.au/downloads/98 ... A37295.PDF

Looks like it is a mix of housing from courtyard to apartments, including Empire Apartments - similar to Mawson Lakes etc.
http://www.propertyinvestmentaggregator ... mage_id=79

More on the Empire & City Edge - pdf
http://www.propertyinvestmentaggregator ... pe=listing

[Norman]

Nice find there, sounds interesting, but still too low in terms of density. At least it's a good start to urban renewal to that part of the city.

[Howie]

Crazy prices for 500sqm blocks Location is excellent though.

[Prince George]

Nice find there, sounds interesting, but still too low in terms of density. At least it's a good start to urban renewal to that part of the city.

+1 This is just the kind of area that should be capable of supporting multi-family developments, but instead it looks like it will be a bunch of detached single-family homes. Some of those blocks are pretty big too, one's just over 800 sqm.

[skyliner]

Nice find there, sounds interesting, but still too low in terms of density. At least it's a good start to urban renewal to that part of the city.

+1 This is just the kind of area that should be capable of supporting multi-family developments, but instead it looks like it will be a bunch of detached single-family homes. Some of those blocks are pretty big too, one's just over 800 sqm.

Correct me if needed, but I believe roughly 800Sqm was the old standard sized quarter acre housing block. Reduced sizes coming from inconvenience of maintenance of larger blocks, expense for the same, reduction needed in urban sprawl and the disappearance of the old Australian dream of having a quarter acre and house. Instead, many larger houses often resulting on smaller blocks being the more recent trend. (Till the recession anyway).

Very interesting development at Brompton - I agree with the sentiment that higher density development is more applicable for this proximity to the city.

SA - STATE ON THE MOVE

[Wayno]

Correct me if needed, but I believe roughly 800Sqm was the old standard sized quarter acre housing block.

1000sqm is the old standard block size (1 acre = 4046sqm). Plenty of room for swinging multiple cats concurrently.. yowl!

[skyliner]

Thanks mate - was going on the size of our block - 1750sqm - (said to be around 1/2 acre) as well as blocks around the school i teach in. 1000sqm seems more accurate to me.

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE

[stumpjumper]

The larger blocks at City Edge will take multiple dwellings. Indeed some are described on the plans as community titles sites.

The website seems a little incoherent, indicating that sales are either going well and they're not fussed about the website or that things are crook. I suspect that all is well.

It will be an interesting development. Instead of one or two major developers, there will potentially be many, including owner/builders and small speculators. Building envelopes are provided, but what sort of unity in look or feel can be preserved under those conditions will be interesting to see.

I'm surprised that the project isn't more bold - the environmental measures are very mild, and the buildings are likely to be the usual aubergine render, horizontal timber strips and square windows with brushed stainless fixtures etc with a few faux Tudors mixed in. I thought there might be a tower or two = something bold and dramatic.

In some ways, one builder might create a better appearance - think of Francis Ridley Circuit on the former speedway/pughole site nearby on Torrens Road, which has a fully retained stormwater system as well. Very tight but harmonious.