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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2146 Post by mattblack » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:23 am

.... looks like the pedestrian crossing is staying put.
No it doesn't. There saying thats its not part of this project which we already know.

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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2147 Post by Wayno » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:54 am

mattblack wrote:
.... looks like the pedestrian crossing is staying put.
No it doesn't. There saying thats its not part of this project which we already know.
"probably staying put" is a better way of saying it ;-) I'd say such a project would be LGA funded and quite low priority from their perspective...
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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2148 Post by DM8 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:40 am

Wayno wrote:"probably staying put" is a better way of saying it ;-) I'd say such a project would be LGA funded and quite low priority from their perspective...
Yes, good point, my bad.

And yes, agree it would likely be up to the local government, but there's bound to be funding arguments... local and state governments each wanting the other to foot the bill (the King St bridge comes to mind).
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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2149 Post by BillD » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:55 pm

Saturday the 17th of October. Work started soon after dawn and the last beam was in place at 5:30 in the afternoon.

Here's the first beam being placed across South Rd
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A beam passing through the new Galipoli underpass
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Work continues
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Last beam being installed - note that formwork for the deck was being installed at the same time
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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2150 Post by Tonsley213 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:04 pm

Thanks Bill for all your photo's in this thread.

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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2151 Post by SRW » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:52 pm

Wow, this really is coming together quickly. I had wondered a few months ago how they would possibly complete it on schedule. Pre-fabrication's the key, obviously...

Thanks for the photo-report, Bill.
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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2152 Post by Shuz » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:03 pm

Hvaing caught the tram a fair bit recently, can someone please explain what the hell is going on with the new overhead wiring poles!?

They are so ad-hoc. Some of them are in the median of the tram lines (centre) others are at the edge (dual). It's so inconsistent and now the landscape of the tramline just looks ugly as!

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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2153 Post by Xaragmata » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:33 pm

Shuz wrote:Hvaing caught the tram a fair bit recently, can someone please explain what the hell is going on with the new overhead wiring poles!?

They are so ad-hoc. Some of them are in the median of the tram lines (centre) others are at the edge (dual). It's so inconsistent and now the landscape of the tramline just looks ugly as!
I don't know the reason, but it may be for visibility near stations / level crossings etc, if the central poles are obstructing vision.

Here is a transition from stobies to temporary support to new poles at Glandore that shows the effect:

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Beckman Street, which also has a crossover:

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#2154 Post by danielphin » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:57 pm

Cruised down to the construction site today on the bike, got 41 photos and 3 videos.

The Flickr Album can be viewed here: South Rd Overpass

Some Highlights:

Looking West. The earth for the ramp, and the concrete, seems to be complete at this end.

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Looking east, the temporary tracks on the left, and the earth for the western end of the overpass is behind all those damn poles. Inconvenient, I know.

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Western end of the overpass, finishing off the wall.

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Looking West, from the eastern end of the overpass. The concrete part of the overpass is obviously missing, and the ramp has had little progress. There were trucks readying the foundation though.

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Eastern end of the overpass, looking west. The ramp for the eastern end of the overpass should begin where the rail curves. You can see the wall where the earth section of the ramp ends and the concrete overpass should begin.

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Working hard, or... (For Xander)

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Extra span, as pointed out by Shuz below.

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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2155 Post by Shuz » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:12 pm

Oh, I'd just like to point out also. I've noticed with regard to the actual overpass structure, there is 3 spans on the eastern side, and 4 spans on the western side. The extra span on the western side, I believe is to accommodate for the widening of South Road in future, so that it can carry 3+3 or 4+4 lanes in each direction. You can see the base structure for the lift is on the eastern side, so that accessibility of the platform isn't compromised when they do get around to doing that.

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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2156 Post by AtD » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:49 pm

Thanks for the photo updates.

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Is that the first exit sign of that style in SA? I can't think of any others.

I'm talking about this sort of thing:

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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2157 Post by Xaragmata » Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:23 pm

Shuz wrote:Oh, I'd just like to point out also. I've noticed with regard to the actual overpass structure, there is 3 spans on the eastern side, and 4 spans on the western side. The extra span on the western side, I believe is to accommodate for the widening of South Road in future, so that it can carry 3+3 or 4+4 lanes in each direction. You can see the base structure for the lift is on the eastern side, so that accessibility of the platform isn't compromised when they do get around to doing that.
It is possible that the western span is to allow for future road widening, but the plan calls for lifts & stairs on both sides of South Road,
unless there has been a change ...

http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/publish ... rpass.html

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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2158 Post by fabricator » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:08 pm

There was also talk of making it so the platform can be extended to cope with longer trams in the future. Not sure if this is already done as the original station seems rather long, or are they going to add another station span later on.
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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2159 Post by Xaragmata » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:10 pm

fabricator wrote:There was also talk of making it so the platform can be extended to cope with longer trams in the future. Not sure if this is already done as the original station seems rather long, or are they going to add another station span later on.
The Urban Circus simulation (on http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... start=2085)
shows the station easily handling flexitys, with room for longer trams (or coupled H's), but the location of stairs & lifts will obstruct
future lengthening.

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http://www.parliament.sa.gov.au/San/pub ... ass_23.htm
The platform will incorporate passenger shelters, lighting, timetable and local information and stop identifiers as required. The platform
will be 40 metres in length, which is appropriate for the Flexity trams, and can cater for two coupled heritage (H-Class) trams. The
stop platforms will be a minimum of 7 metres wide to meet DDA requirements as well as Building Code requirements regarding
emergency evacuation provisions.

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Re: Glenelg Tram upgrade (#UC: South Rd Overpass)

#2160 Post by BillD » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:57 pm

Xaragmata wrote:
Shuz wrote:You can see the base structure for the lift is on the eastern side, so that accessibility of the platform isn't compromised when they do get around to doing that.
It is possible that the western span is to allow for future road widening, but the plan calls for lifts & stairs on both sides of South Road
Now that the cranes don't need access to the western site, the lift foundations are underway. Here's a shot looking towards Glenelg.

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