News & Discussion: Other Transport Projects

[Norman]

The DTEI website has a nice video summarizing the public transport projects that are underway at the moment:
http://www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au/

The video is also shown on occasion at the Adelaide Railway Station.

[omada]

Excuse my ignorance here, but what is the status of the Tramline extension after they finish the extension to the Entertainment Centre? It all seems to be a bit "up in the air" regarding further expansion details. Feel free provide a thread link, as i'm sure this has been discussed in detail somewhere on the forums.

[rhino]

It's in the latest "New Connections"

http://www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au/__d ... lowres.pdf

[Hooligan]

It's in the latest "New Connections"

http://www.infrastructure.sa.gov.au/__d ... lowres.pdf

That says nothing about future tram track extensions

[skyliner]

there is strong inference on the map that the planned tram ext. is still on. This would have to be removed if it was not going ahead.

SA - STATE ON THE MOVE

[adam73837]

But what of the route? Surely they aren't considering crossing the city-bound side of Port Rd to get to the train line!

Earlier this year, when I visited Aurecon for a day, one of the guys there said to me that he would prefer that the tramline connected with the trainline before Park Terrace and that the two of them entered an underpass beneath Port Road, creating an underground station at the Bowden site.

But we all know Media Mike, things need to open just before the election to show how much we are doing!

[DM8]

As much as I would hate to see it, I would not be surprised at all if they dump a level crossing on the city-bound carriageway of Port Road.

Shoving it all underground (or at the very least, a rail overpass) is ideal, but means that more money must be spent - something which SA doesn't like doing. (Off topic a bit, but I remember the original tight-assed plans for the Port River Expressway - traffic lights at South Road, and no interchange at Hanson Rd)

[rhino]

but means that more money must be spent - something which SA doesn't like doing. (Off topic a bit, but I remember the original tight-assed plans for the Port River Expressway - traffic lights at South Road, and no interchange at Hanson Rd)

Huh? All the infrastructure being built, all the work going on, and you say SA doesn't like to spend money? And your justification for this point of view is "tight-assed plans" that were dumped so that the job could be done to a higher standard? What are you on? Can I have some?

[monotonehell]

The only way they could do it without a purchase of land along Port road is to use South Road. Not sure how well it could be done there.
If that's the case, I'd like to see another (possibly only part time) stop at Milner road for Hindmarsh stadium. If that stadium isn't replaced in the near future.

Maybe.

[DM8]

The only way they could do it without a purchase of land along Port road is to use South Road.

Hadn't thought of that - it'd probably work though. Continue in the median of Port Road to South Road, then curve north to run in the middle of South road, then turn north west at the existing level crossing. Of course, a prerequisite for this to avoid gridlock would be the originally planned tunnel underneath Port Rd and the rail line.

And your justification for this point of view is "tight-assed plans" that were dumped so that the job could be done to a higher standard?

First of all, one's point of view doesn't require justification. But if it must, my thinking is that if SA didn't have hangups on road infrastructure spending, the original proposal would have never seen the light of day. And as far as the higher standard of the resulting road, we have the feds to thank for that. Same with NExy.

[rhino]

The only way they could do it without a purchase of land along Port road is to use South Road.

Hadn't thought of that - it'd probably work though. Continue in the median of Port Road to South Road, then curve north to run in the middle of South road, then turn north west at the existing level crossing. Of course, a prerequisite for this to avoid gridlock would be the originally planned tunnel underneath Port Rd and the rail line.

I am assuming that South Road at this point will be a triple-underpass job, in the same way that the Bakewell Underpass is a double-underpass.If so, it would be preferable to run the tram in it's own right of way to the west of South Road's western carriageway, and then turn it into the railway corridor, thus avoiding another level crossing on South Road. When South Road is lowered for the underpasses, the tramway won't be able to run down the middle of it anyway, although it may be able to run elevated (at ground level) above the lowered South Road. If South Road is made into a true tunnel (cut and covered), your plan may work.

[Nathan]

Looking at the most recent plans for the Bowden Village, it looks like the tram would cross Port Rd, and go up both Drayton St, and Gibson St, to meet up with Bowden Station.

http://www.lmc.sa.gov.au/bowdenvillage/ ... px?did=688

[fabricator]

Looking at the most recent plans for the Bowden Village, it looks like the tram would cross Port Rd, and go up both Drayton St, and Gibson St, to meet up with Bowden Station.

http://www.lmc.sa.gov.au/bowdenvillage/ ... px?did=688

Actually on page 4 it clearly shows two sets of double track crossing Port Road, as you say both Drayton St, and Gibson St.

It also says:
"PUBLIC TRANSPORT
RETAIN THE RAIL CORRIDOR AND OPERATE AT SLOW SPEEDS WITHIN BOWDEN URBAN VILLAGE" <- stupid use of capitals their doing.

Also why exactly are we re-locating the station, when the tracks are remaining at grade through the town square anyway.

[rhino]

Also why exactly are we re-locating the station, when the tracks are remaining at grade through the town square anyway.

Possibly because they want to retain heavy rail access to the Lefevre Peninsula, and so would need to retain the high platform at Bowden Station for the trains, and build a new low platform at Market Square for the trams?

[fabricator]

Ah but it was also mentioned in another set of transport plans, that the rail underpass under Park Terrace would require demolishing Bowden Station, or at least the platforms. It's almost as if the developers are making the transport plans themselves.