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Re: Southern vales urban sprawl

#31 Post by Cruise » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:31 pm

skyliner wrote:smaller housing blocks in the suburbs,

Exactly, people on this website that use the analogy of the "1/4 acre block" should really go out on the fringe and have a look at whats being built out there. most block sizes vary from 300sqm to 500sqm. which alone almost triples the density of what alot of you think is going on out there.
The 1/4 acre blocks exist in in the older areas closer to the city, these are the problem.

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Re: Southern vales urban sprawl

#32 Post by Bulldozer » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:54 pm

jimmy_2486 wrote:
Bulldozer wrote:The two times I've needed a car, I hired one.
Couldnt u have just caught a cab?
Could have, but taxis aren't too good for showing visitors around the place and cabbies don't really like you using them to transport heavy goods. :)

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#H/D: Seaford Heights | 1300h | 77ha

#33 Post by AG » Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:19 pm

1300 new Fairmont Group housing blocks for Seaford Heights
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MORE than 1300 new houses will be built at Seaford Heights by the Fairmont Group, which has won a State Government tender.

Land Management Corporation Chief Executive Wayne Gibbings said the 77ha development was part of a strategy to accelerate the release of "well-located, affordable and serviced land".

Mr Gibbings said dwellings in the development would be expected to meet stringent environmental sustainability standards set down by LMC.

The Fairmont Group expects to attain a six-star energy efficiency rating for all dwellings and the development will include a shopping centre and a possible primary school site.

"The Seaford Heights development will also be a `walkable' community and provide integrated living opportunities for seniors," Mr Gibbings said.

"The development will be ecologically friendly and a `purple' pipe system will also be installed to deliver recycled water to each home for gardens and toilet flushing."

The land is bounded by Main South Road, Robinson Road and Victor Harbor Road and was zoned for residential development in the late 1980s.

The suburb is 34km south of the Adelaide CBD, in close proximity to the coast, Colonnades Regional Shopping Centre, the Southern Expressway and the Southern Vales wine district.

The Fairmont Group is a South Australian based and owned company which has undertaken a number of major land developments throughout Adelaide.

It is anticipated that lots will be available to the public in early 2010.

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Re: Seaford Heights - 1300 New Housing Blocks

#34 Post by Prince George » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:28 pm

Oh these modern days with their mixed messages, a pox on them! On the one hand there's the Wayville development and the government taking developers off to see examples of dense inner urban developments around the world, and then we carry on with business as usual.

There are no plans I suppose (the existence of a whole school isn't even decided, after all) so we can still live in hope that they will be mind bogglingly brilliant and resolve the contradictions. A walkable community located out of reach of practically anything by foot, even the beach despite having "close proximity to the coast". Affordable developments that mandate owning cars to get anywhere. "Well located ... land" that needs to include being close to the Southern Expressway amongst its appeals.

And a six star energy efficiency rating? Just how many stars are we rating them out of now - Michelin must feel pretty stupid only handing out three. We need to start assigning energy efficiency ratings to lifestyles as well as buildings - even the most efficient of houses is not going to help us if we keep building them in places that require us to burn energy getting to or from them.

The Queen often takes a look at British Expat sites about Adelaide, and mentions that Seaford is one of the places that they are going to in large numbers - they tend to be looking for big houses close to the beach. But there's a recurrent story with them: arrive and move to Seaford, stay the mandatory two years, declare that the place is boring and move to Queensland. Now many of them might have really wanted to go to Queensland anyway, but when you look at the Seaford area, it's no wonder that they're saying the place is boring. Now they'll be able to add "And our house was next to a dump" - isn't that Southern Waste down at the corner of Wheaton and Ostrich Farm roads?

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Re: Seaford Heights - 1300 New Housing Blocks

#35 Post by Wilfy 2007 » Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:14 pm

Prince George wrote:Oh these modern days with their mixed messages, a pox on them! On the one hand there's the Wayville development and the government taking developers off to see examples of dense inner urban developments around the world, and then we carry on with business as usual.

There are no plans I suppose (the existence of a whole school isn't even decided, after all) so we can still live in hope that they will be mind bogglingly brilliant and resolve the contradictions. A walkable community located out of reach of practically anything by foot, even the beach despite having "close proximity to the coast". Affordable developments that mandate owning cars to get anywhere. "Well located ... land" that needs to include being close to the Southern Expressway amongst its appeals.

And a six star energy efficiency rating? Just how many stars are we rating them out of now - Michelin must feel pretty stupid only handing out three. We need to start assigning energy efficiency ratings to lifestyles as well as buildings - even the most efficient of houses is not going to help us if we keep building them in places that require us to burn energy getting to or from them.

The Queen often takes a look at British Expat sites about Adelaide, and mentions that Seaford is one of the places that they are going to in large numbers - they tend to be looking for big houses close to the beach. But there's a recurrent story with them: arrive and move to Seaford, stay the mandatory two years, declare that the place is boring and move to Queensland. Now many of them might have really wanted to go to Queensland anyway, but when you look at the Seaford area, it's no wonder that they're saying the place is boring. Now they'll be able to add "And our house was next to a dump" - isn't that Southern Waste down at the corner of Wheaton and Ostrich Farm roads?
Prince George,

I am a former SA resident and I am interested to know where the Wayville development is.

I am also hoping that they get a wriggle on with the Noarlunga Rail extension cause this will help this development no end.

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Re: Seaford Heights - 1300 New Housing Blocks

#36 Post by AtD » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:31 am

Wilfy 2007 wrote:I am a former SA resident and I am interested to know where the Wayville development is.
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#37 Post by Port Adelaide Fan » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:33 pm

NOARLUNGA centre will transform into a thriving, pedestrian-friendly urban village over the next three decades, plans obtained by The Advertiser reveal.

Onkaparinga council will consider the blueprint for the first transport-oriented development in Adelaide's south at a meeting tomorrow night.

The plan, prepared by urban design consultants Parsons Brinckerhoff, predicts Noarlunga Regional Centre will be the Fleurieu Peninsula's "centrepiece" by 2028.

"The Centre will be thriving as the commercial and community heart of the city and region," the report reads.

"It will become a place where 10,000 people choose to live and work - a place that is accessible, vibrant and resilient."

A critical component of the State Government's 30-year development plan, the vision includes high-density housing around the Colonnades shopping centre, commercial precincts adjacent the train station and a new university centre. Thirteen sites have been earmarked in the 30-year plan for future high-density developments, including Gawler in the north and Bowden on the city's western fringe.

Underpinning the vision for the Noarlunga Centre is a proposal to build 3000 residential dwellings to lift the centre's resident population to 6000 and the working population to 10,000.

Other major components include:

LIGHT RAIL connecting Beach Rd at Christies Beach with the new centre.

COMMERCIAL and retail areas lining a traditional main street precinct.

APARTMENT housing up to four storeys high.

A NETWORK of public plazas linked by cycling and pedestrian pathways.

About 4000 people now work in the area, but there are no houses, meaning the area is dominated by car use and is empty after business hours. If Onkaparinga council votes to adopt the plan at tomorrow's meeting it will be released for public comment on November 20 for four weeks.

Unlike the controversial Woodville transit-oriented development (TOD), planned for the St Clair Reserve site, the Noarlunga plan does not require a land swap. The majority of the land surrounding Colonnades is owned by the state and local governments.

Southern Suburbs Minister John Hill said intensification around transport corridors created a more "integrated and pedestrian and family-friendly" place to live.

Onkaparinga Mayor Lorraine Rosenberg declined to comment until after the meeting.

"Vibrant Noarlunga will boast a broad yet compatible mix of uses that encourages live- ly activity throughout the day and into the evening, seven days a week," the plan says.

The plan aims to increase the number of people who work in the area by encouraging commercial activity and promoting the area as a "corporate address" of choice.

About 60 per cent of the City of Onkaparinga's residents are commuters and leave the area for work each day.

"The city is hoping that its revitalisation will encourage more residents to find employment within the city itself."

Parsons Brinckerhoff national director of sustainability Darren Bilsborough said the revitalised centre would have a positive impact on the community and the environment.

"The thing that is most important to this is people, not cars," he said.

"This is the future. It is about creating a physical mechanism to allow people to live and connect and enjoy their lives as they should, and not just be dominated by the car."

Mr Bilsborough said pedestrian-friendly developments also enhanced the health and well-being of the community by encouraging walking.

The population of the City of Onkaparinga is expected to grow by about 60,000 by 2050, increasing the population to about 210,000.

In the State Government's draft 30 Year Plan for Greater Adelaide, Noarlunga is identified as a key growth area and a Regional Activity Centre. The Noarlunga Centre plan also ties in with the Government's stated goal of having 70 per cent of all new development built on the existing footprint of greater Adelaide.

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Re: Get set for a great southern revival

#38 Post by Will » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:26 pm

In general this sounds like a great idea, however why will the apartment buildings be limited to 4 levels? There are no heritage considerations to consider down in Noarlunga.

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Re: Get set for a great southern revival

#39 Post by Prince George » Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:07 am

It's likely that they feel constrained by market demand. The city centre can sustain 10-20 storey developments because of the high levels of demand, it would be a big act of faith to do the same around Collonades. With so much of Adelaide just single-storey, we can expect the battle for density to be fought between 4-6 storeys. What we could really do with is for the first examples of multi-family developments to be really outstanding, to demonstrate solid demand and drive the dialogue toward wanting, rather than rejecting, these projects in further areas around the city.

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Re: Get set for a great southern revival

#40 Post by AtD » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:03 am

Four stories is still very low and I wonder if it'll be able to achieve the critical mass of people the article is talking about. Even Canberra's suburbs can manage grater than four stories.

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Re: Get set for a great southern revival

#41 Post by Shuz » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:26 am

$5.05 says that this article is just another chance for someone to blow his/her trumpet about "change", and come 30 years down the track, nothing will ever really have happened.

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Re: Get set for a great southern revival

#42 Post by Prince George » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:13 pm

Density and critical mass aren't just a question of height. I would say Norwood/Payneham/St Peters has reasonable density - almost double that of the City of Adelaide - but has practically nothing over two stories. It manages it by actually being dense - narrow streets, smaller dwellings, all packed together. If the plan is to build 150+ sq m apartments on multi-laned streets, then yes you probably need more than four levels. But if not, you can fit a heck of a lot of people into that space.

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#43 Post by PeFe » Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:33 am

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A 51-UNIT Morphett Vale development is the first of its kind in the southern suburbs, the developers say.
Windsong Park Estate, on Windsong Court, is being released for sale today and developer David Willmott, owner of Prime Building Company, said it was a "lifestyle" development.

"It's apartment-type living with one and two-bedroom apartments and three-bedroom townhouses and it has a central park with veggie patches," Mr Willmott said.

He said the price of land in Morphett Vale and a lack of new apartment developments spurred them on, with support from Onkaparinga Council. "We didn't realise the zoning had changed and we sat down and worked through it to come up with a new type of development," he said.

"We did our research and there's not a lot of new apartments or unit-type developments in Morphett Vale, there's not a lot available."

Prices will range from $180,000 for a one-bedroom apartment up to $295,000 for the three-bedroom townhouses and while it is not targeted at low-income earners, Mr Willmott said he thought the development would appeal to a wide range of buyers. "With the one-bedroom at $180,000, I don't think you can buy anything in Adelaide with that sort of money at the moment," he said.

"The one-bedders could be investors, single mums, young women looking to invest or get out of home - it's a really good mixture."

Onkaparinga Council acting CEO Terry Sutcliffe said the development was part of the council's planning framework to allow increasing density and a range of different houses.

"It's really about making sure we get very efficient use of urban land - one of the issues is the cost and pressure to keep expanding into greenfields areas," Mr Sutcliffe said.

"Choice of housing stock in Onkaparinga is pretty homogenous, we want to be able to provide a range of choices."

Construction on Windsong Park Estate is set to begin in February and be completed by early 2013.

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Re: Morphett Vale Apartments - Windsong Estate

#44 Post by ghs » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:47 pm

180,000 is pretty cheap. Stamp duty would be around 6,000.

Someone who's has not bought before could claim the two grants from the government
of $7000 each then buy a place for 170,000 or so.

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#45 Post by PeFe » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:34 am

From The Advertiser
Is this the new face of Christies Beach? Plans in for seven-storey apartment complex
A SEVEN-storey apartment complex earmarked for Christies Beach will become the south’s tallest building if it is approved by Onkaparinga Council.
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am Mercorella Pty Ltd this month lodged an application with the council for the development at 1-2 Price St, which includes an underground carpark, office space and 32 apartments.
Spokeswoman Sonia Mercorella said it was the company’s first multi-storey development and would be directly behind its other property, Seaside Plaza, on Beach Rd.
If approved, it would replace Noarlunga House as being the tallest building in the region, which stands at six storeys.
“We think the area has amazing potential for growth being so close to amenities, including the beach, retail and commercial spaces,” Mrs Mercorella said.
Mrs Mercorella said the rezoning of Christies Beach to allow high-density living for buildings more than four storeys high in the suburb’s centre had prompted the application.
“The rezoning of the area provided the perfect opportunity,” she said.
Mrs Mercorella said multi-storey apartment living had advantages for its residents and the community, such as added security.

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