#VISION Liberal's railyard plan: new stadium & entertainment

[Howie]

I'm pretty chuffed about this proposal, it has everything we asked for in Sensational-Adelaide 2008 Planning Submission (Chapter 10). I think alot of people are getting bogged down by details, this is a concept.. don't expect fully rendered video animations, I think sketchup works well in showing what is possible.

And by the way, don't underestimate the influence this document we produced has had on policy making (I can't be more specific than this so don't ask). So well done to each of you who kindly contributed their ideas on the forums to get us where we are today. I'm glad someone out there is listening to the people.

[deano91]

Well this has certainly chucked the Libs back in to the mix for me for next year's election. I think the big question is whether or not they are going to be electrifying our trains as well? If they are, they've certainly got my vote!

[Splashmo]

nice looking plan, but just tow flaws..how are they going to build those towers on the parklands? the nimby's would go nuts and not let it happen, especially the preservation park lands society. secondly, isn't AMMI stadium owned by SANFL? if so how will the libs sell it?

I doubt this is a final, lock-it-in plan of what the precinct would look like.

[Mpol]

As people have mentioend elsewhere, how on earth could half of these plans go through with the minority greenies and NIMBYS opposing so much of it? The parklands/torrens especially.

And doesn't ther SANFL own AAMI? How will the gov get them to sell it off? And there has been a fair amount spent on that... and the proposals for the upgrade with the apparetments/etc... are they still going ahead with that?

[tstaylor]

Why is the Turning Torso in the riverside vision?

[Howie]

Indeed it is, and the architect of the Turning Torso has endorsed it's use. I'd have gone the full height turning torso personally, but then we'd be looking at other issues including height restrictions etc.

[AtD]

Sir Humphrey calls this plan "courageous."

The Libs are only doing this because they know they're not going to win this election. They know that there's no way the state government would be able to construct something like this, politically, legally, economically, without some serious fighting. But that's irrelevant, they're not going to win so they'll never have to worry about. But they do get to point at it and say "look we've got a vision!" It might save them one last seat on the back bench.

It's exactly the same as the Greens releasing a federal budget.

[Pistol]

Computer says no

[Cassius]

I like the concept and appreciate the vision, if the financials are solid, then I'm sold.

Converted liberal voter.

[Omicron]

Sir Humphrey calls this plan "courageous."

Ahaha!

[JamesXander]

"For too long Adelaide has been considered a backwater" drones the monotone voice, chanting that same trite line that's been heard I-don't-know-how-often before. But what they show us is a backwater plan. Stadiums, conference facilities, casinos, hotels, it's like a grab-bag of the ideas that desparate towns cling to.

Visions are so dispensable. Spend a weekend playing around with Google SketchUp, draw up a few shapes and *bingo* vision. What of any of these visions could you count on actually happening? Obviously nothing has actually gone beyond the random drawing stage and the voice-over in the video (which was only marginally more animated sounding than my doormat) is rife with coulds and shoulds. These are like serving suggestions on the cereal box; Kellogs don't promise strawberries in the Cornflakes, neither are we promised anything in these vision statements (beyond perhaps the stadium). Is there any point criticising any of it's contents, when none of it is likely to be real?

But for that caveat I will say this: the parts of the vision relating to Gepps Cross and West Lake shows high density housing, but for the life of me I can't see a transit link to them. They are like TODs without the transit, which I guess just makes them OD. So either they remain car dependent, or we're building new transit links there. And especially in the case of Gepps Cross, the extra expense rather consumes any revenue that we suppose may be raised by selling the land for development.

I think you've got it all wrong here.

Its the simple fact that the Liberals have laid out a plan, a vision for this site. Adelaide needs to atleast appear to be heading into the future.

A hospital on prime land is no the way to go, no matter how you put it.

[JamesXander]

Struth, what a disappointment! 'Tis hard to tell which party's vision for the railyards is worse

The wrong kind of stadium (and without the redeeming frog cake aesthetics), an attempt to cram the interstate trains into a subsurface facility far too small, many buildings extremely inappropriate for the parklands location, and replacing perfectly good suburban facilities with high density housing.

Don't any politicians want development appropriate for the location?

Aidan, its a concept. Obviously developers and architects would come up with ideas for the stations, centres, casinos & stadium

[dsriggs]

I enjoy the part where they say there'll be a bunch of riverside shops & cafes when there's dozens of empty retail outlets in the CBD itself.

[JamesXander]

I enjoy the part where they say there'll be a bunch of riverside shops & cafes when there's dozens of empty retail outlets in the CBD itself.

Dozens? Where?

[Will]

Sir Humphrey calls this plan "courageous."

The Libs are only doing this because they know they're not going to win this election. They know that there's no way the state government would be able to construct something like this, politically, legally, economically, without some serious fighting. But that's irrelevant, they're not going to win so they'll never have to worry about. But they do get to point at it and say "look we've got a vision!" It might save them one last seat on the back bench.

It's exactly the same as the Greens releasing a federal budget.

It's a nice idea, but these are my sentiments exactly. It's easy to have such a vision when deep down you know you have no chance of winning the elction. And please, lets all be realistic, the Libs need a massive swing to win the election; it's not going to happen. The aim of such an announcement is too highlight the government's Achilles Heel, but that is all.