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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1021 Post by AtD » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:29 pm

The desto "Shuttle Tram" is rather silly imo for a service that receives a lot of tourists.

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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1022 Post by BillD » Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:06 pm

AtD wrote:The desto "Shuttle Tram" is rather silly imo for a service that receives a lot of tourists.
Good point AtD,
The desto actually alternates between "City West" & "Shuttle Tram" - I happened to hit the shutter button as "Shuttle Tram" was visible.
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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1023 Post by fabricator » Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:12 pm

BillD wrote:
AtD wrote:The desto "Shuttle Tram" is rather silly imo for a service that receives a lot of tourists.
Good point AtD,
The desto actually alternates between "City West" & "Shuttle Tram" - I happened to hit the shutter button as "Shuttle Tram" was visible.
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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1024 Post by Tonsley213 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:19 pm

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Too much noise. It is nice inside and looks like it has the same seating, it is smoother than the old ones but it is noisy, more noisy.
Noisy?? WTF?

typical Adelaidian, just has to whinge about something. :roll:
They are noisy at the back over the traction wheels and the noise is high piched which is annoying.

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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1025 Post by danielphin » Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:14 pm

Are there not enough vertical pixels (LED's ?) to make dest plates double lined?

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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1026 Post by Xaragmata » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:05 pm

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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1027 Post by fkj » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:31 pm

do i see 3 tracks at that stop?
im assuming thats the west terrace stop, so they can have 3 trams for everyone at hq?
am i right

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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1028 Post by Xaragmata » Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:30 pm

fkj wrote:do i see 3 tracks at that stop?
im assuming thats the west terrace stop, so they can have 3 trams for everyone at hq?
am i right
Yes, the shuttle trams terminating on the centre track, with the outer tracks for through services to the Entertainment Centre / Glenelg.

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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1029 Post by fkj » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:44 pm

aha, now that would be ideal for the other end of the shuttle as well to make the turn around quicker and easier

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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1030 Post by Norman » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:54 pm

fkj wrote:aha, now that would be ideal for the other end of the shuttle as well to make the turn around quicker and easier
There already is a turnback there.

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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1031 Post by Aidan » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:23 pm

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fkj wrote:aha, now that would be ideal for the other end of the shuttle as well to make the turn around quicker and easier
There already is a turnback there.
Turnback sidings are slow and disruptive to use. A terminating platform is much better for a shuttle service. But better still would be running a through service all the time - it's ridiculous to run a shuttle service when it's standing room only all the way from Glenelg!
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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1032 Post by rubberman » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:18 pm

Crossovers were used everywhere on the Adelaide (and all other systems in Australia) for short workings and specials. Actually, they were quite fast even when one had to change trolley poles, manually wind destination blinds and change the steps from one side to the other.

However, if you have the room and the money, then a siding allows for flexibility....the shuttle doesn't have to get out of the way of an early or late tram in its way. It is also better if there is likely to be a lot of people using that particular spot to get on and off.

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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1033 Post by DM8 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:10 am

Aidan wrote:But better still would be running a through service all the time - it's ridiculous to run a shuttle service when it's standing room only all the way from Glenelg!
I do so agree! But it probably wouldn't go down well with motorists, forever stopping at boom gates.
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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1034 Post by rubberman » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:25 am

The other thing is that in effect there are two services being run - the shuttle and the bay tram.

They are not mutually exclusive so that if you think that more trams should run to Glenelg (and the problems with delays at crossings can be overcome) then that can happen without having to reduce the city shuttle services.

The city shuttles are still pretty full even though they only go to Terrace to Terrace - which means that if the shuttles were not running, those extra people would somehow have to fit on the Bay Tram.

Basically at the moment we need both.

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Re: #U/C: Port Adelaide Tram Line

#1035 Post by DM8 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:36 am

Ah well, there's always the option of bringing back the 99B to compliment the shuttle trams :D
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