Building giving David Jones the finger.?

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Building giving David Jones the finger.?

#1 Post by duke » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:04 am

On North Tce you have David Jones with all the leaves over it,
Then to the right of the building you have that big empty building between DJ and the old Club 108.
At the top of the empty building is a leaf, at the end of the leaf is a hand with its middle finger sticking up facing the David Jones building.

Anyone know what the deal is with this thing?

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Re: Building giving David Jones the finger.?

#2 Post by Prince George » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:22 am

That's been there since the David Jones building was completed. IIRC, when the DJs building was going up, that little cluster of older buildings had placards in its windows that suggested the owners had some beef with what was going on next door.

Stretching a little further back, I recall that just prior to the Adelaide project there had been a story from interstate (was it Brisbane?) where David Jones were developing a site but had to retain some heritage buildings. During the early site works, the foundations of the heritage buildings were irreperably damaged and DJs got permission to demolish them for public safety, and thence developed the entire site. Heritage groups were unimpressed, and more than a little suspicious. It's possible that this has something to do with the placards and the finger, but of course I'm just speculating.

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#3 Post by Xaragmata » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:14 pm

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#4 Post by Vee » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:25 pm

duke wrote: At the top of the empty building is a leaf, at the end of the leaf is a hand with its middle finger sticking up facing the David Jones building.
Anyone know what the deal is with this thing?
Never noticed this before! Well spotted.

Thanks, Prince George, for the background info and speculation?? and the great photo by Xara!

Would have been a good candidate for Wayno's "where is it" thread?

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#5 Post by jk1237 » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:33 pm

didnt know any of this

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#6 Post by Omicron » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:37 pm

I think it's marvellous. A quirky little addition to Adelaide.

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#7 Post by stumpjumper » Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:15 pm

The 'finger' on the little stone Gothic building dates from the time of the David Jones redevelopment and relates to an argument between the building's owner, Lorraine Thompson, and the DJ developers over rear access to Ms Thompson's building. At the time, Ms Thompson was a practising accountant and lawyer.

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#8 Post by duke » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:02 am

Some good info :)

Anyone know why these buildings have been empty for so long? It seems like buildings like this are a perfect example of lack of progress in Adelaide. I couldn't imagine similar sites in other cities staying empty for so long.

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#9 Post by Will » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:45 am

duke wrote:Some good info :)

Anyone know why these buildings have been empty for so long? It seems like buildings like this are a perfect example of lack of progress in Adelaide. I couldn't imagine similar sites in other cities staying empty for so long.
Rather I think they are an example of the restrictions placed on the re-use on heritage buildings ehre in Adelaide. The ACC restrictions are quite strict in that heritage listing imparts strict rules regarding the changes that can be made to a building. Such rules are very inflexible and they mean that in many cases such buildings cannot be re-adapted for modern use, or their potential uses are reduced.

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#10 Post by AtD » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:00 pm

Yes the issues for old buildings can be a long list. Problems such as fire escapes, fire suppression, disable access, asbestos, ventilation and so on all need to be resolved before you can even consider occupying many buildings, especially in a commercial setting. Atop of all that are the requirements of any modern tenancy: air conditioning, heating, plumbing, lighting, power and communications, all of which you'd want to resolve if you ever want to be able to attract enough rent to make it worth your time. Then add atop of that the restrictions of heritage and the additional red tape this requires around all the work done. It all costs money.

It's unfortunate that the very regulations designed to protect heritage buildings often leaves them in a state of decay.

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#11 Post by ahurrell » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:48 pm

i'm so glad I found this. The signs in the windows of that shop at that time used to read "what about me david jones?" "am i to collapse like Brisbane?" which made no sense to me but was so intriguing i never forgot it! the mystery if finally resolved. and i do love that finger, especially the red nail polish!

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Re: Building giving David Jones the finger.?

#12 Post by stumpjumper » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:29 pm

Ms Thompson's building is vacant because she likes it that way. The building as actually two, with a residence downstairs accessible by the right hand front door, and consulting rooms upstairs accessed room the left hand front door.

A lot of other old buildings in Adelaide CBD have unoccupied upper floors because of our fire safety rules. Legislation has meant that some buildings are unlet, while others are let but may not be stayed ion overnight.

It's a pity because a lot of the space is well-located and usable, but cannot easily be made compliant.

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