Should we allow right turns on King William Street?

[Straze]

The Glenelg tramline was extended to City West in 2007, since then no right turns have been implemented permantely along King William Street, i know the traffic flow is said to be smoother but many motorists now have to take a detour to get to their designation. For example say i have to get from the Australian Post to Kent Town i would now have to drive up King William Street, take a detour via King William Road, Victoria Dr, Kintore Av to get on to North Terrace. I think we should allow right turns along King William Street.

[ghs]

I think if they allowed right turns on KWS then the trams would spend a lot of time stuck behind cars and
would never get anywhere.... In melbourne they use those hook turns but I am not sure how
effective they are..

[AtD]

There's only a handfull of hook turns in Melbourne. Most of the time they just ban right turns too.

Seriously though, why are you driving through the city?

[Nathan]

The Glenelg tramline was extended to City West in 2007, since then no right turns have been implemented permantely along King William Street, i know the traffic flow is said to be smoother but many motorists now have to take a detour to get to their designation. For example say i have to get from the Australian Post to Kent Town i would now have to drive up King William Street, take a detour via King William Road, Victoria Dr, Kintore Av to get on to North Terrace. I think we should allow right turns along King William Street.

Why take a long detour like that? Why not just turn left off King William St (any left turn will do), and then left again down the first available lane, and then left one more time - and bang - you're driving east towards Kent Town. Probably take only fractionally more time than waiting to turn right.

[Straze]

I dont drive at all, i was using an example, i.e if i were taxi driver or delivery driver. You gotta to understand that not everyone wants to catch public transport as it may not suit their needs. I dont think banning cars in the city is good because you may find that many businesses will have to close down i.e car dealerships, petrol stations, conveniences and parking stations.

[Aidan]

One problem with hook turns is that they can hold up left turning traffic. That's not a problem at the corner of King William Street and North Terrace (where buses make hook turns at the moment) because there aren't many buses doing it and left turning traffic can cut through Hindley Street and one of the minor roads. But in other parts of the CIty it could be more disruptive.

One way around this problem is to make the streets one way. What do people think of the idea of making Pirie, Waymouth, Angas, Gouger, Halifax and Sturt Streets westbound only, and Franklin, Flinders, Wright, Carrington, Gilbert and Gilles Streets easbound only?

[monotonehell]

You gotta to understand that not everyone wants to catch public transport as it may not suit their needs.

Banned right hand turns make it better to drive in the city rather than worse. Before right hand turns were banned on Pulteney and KWS it was bumper to bumper waiting for turning cars. Remember; two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do. GPO to Kent Town: Waymouth, Light Sq, Currie, Grenfell, East Tce, Rundle Road and you're there.

I dont think banning cars in the city is good because you may find that many businesses will have to close down i.e car dealerships, petrol stations, conveniences and parking stations.

Wah wah wah. Who cares? I don't think banning drugs is a good idea either, as it puts all the drug dealers out of business. If something's doing harm, then curbing it is usually a good idea. All the support industry that's associated will just have to find a different business.

[AG]

I dont drive at all, i was using an example, i.e if i were taxi driver or delivery driver. You gotta to understand that not everyone wants to catch public transport as it may not suit their needs. I dont think banning cars in the city is good because you may find that many businesses will have to close down i.e car dealerships, petrol stations, conveniences and parking stations.

If any driver heading to that destination (Australia Post in Kent Town) had at least half a brain, they wouldn't be driving up King William Street north of Victoria Square in the first place (if they can avoid it)! The alternative is to turn off King William Street and then do a U-turn where possible to head east (there's quite a few places to do that). As much as most people hate to, you still need to think about how to get to your destination. Adelaide drivers have remarkably easy driving conditions.

[monotonehell]

This thread is starting to remind me of the guy who was lost in the English countryside and stopped to ask a farmer how to get to his destination.
"Well," said the farmer after considering the question for a few seconds, "I wouldn't've started 'ere."