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Re: Public Transport boost pledged by ALP

#961 Post by Vee » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:35 pm

bay transit wrote:The Liberal Party has this afternoon released its Transport Policy-it is a 22 page document covering all forms of transport.
Trams;- Nothing specific other than it states "integrates with train services"-does this mean the continuation of the current plan to have trams running through to West Lakes,Semaphore, and Port Adelaide?nothing specific.
I absolutely love the tram extensions and plans to extend these in the future. I hope these continue no matter what party is in power after the election.
This absence of detail from the Lib's Transport Policy worries me.

A tram network for the city and inner/established suburbs should be a significant part of Adelaide's public transport options.

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Re: Public Transport boost pledged by ALP

#962 Post by skyliner » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:15 pm

veemur wrote:
bay transit wrote:The Liberal Party has this afternoon released its Transport Policy-it is a 22 page document covering all forms of transport.
Trams;- Nothing specific other than it states "integrates with train services"-does this mean the continuation of the current plan to have trams running through to West Lakes,Semaphore, and Port Adelaide?nothing specific.
I absolutely love the tram extensions and plans to extend these in the future. I hope these continue no matter what party is in power after the election.
This absence of detail from the Lib's Transport Policy worries me.

A tram network for the city and inner/established suburbs should be a significant part of Adelaide's public transport options.
Absolutely agree - in current light rail magazines the number of cities adopting light rail/trams is increasing VERY rapidly. I believe that it behooves Adelaide to take advantage of the flat and straight streets (usually quite wide) in the inner suburban area. It is 'strange' how both parties are vague about this.

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Re: Public Transport boost pledged by ALP

#963 Post by Wilfy 2007 » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:19 am

Hi,
I wonder on the morning of the Election how much money has been allocated for the expansion of the Adelaide Railway System past it's present boundaries.
I have said all along the Rann Government is City Centric.
When will they start spending money on the Outer Rail areas of the City.
Rail needs to be run to Mount Barker, Aldinga, Buckland Park, Riverton, Kapunda and last but not least the Barossa, the number 1 visitors destination for Aussie visitors and the number 5 destination for winery visitors in the world.

Why has Rann not made these plans in his election run up to today, in my opinion he is hoodwinking the South Australian public.

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Re: Public Transport boost pledged by ALP

#964 Post by Norman » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:21 pm

I don't think there are any plans by either major party to increase the size of the Adelaide rail network except for Seaford and, later down the track, Aldinga.

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Re: Public Transport boost pledged by ALP

#965 Post by Straze » Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:37 pm

No matter who is State Government i would like to see Adelaide Metro bus services extended to the Gawler area because it would encourage people to leave their cars and catch the bus to do their daily tasks i.e. school, work, shopping and health services and give the people without a car a better and safe way to get around their local area. Public transport services are essential in more areas like this if we aim to reduce traffic, pollution, noise and improve accessibility. A local loop service linking Gawler with Willaston, Hewett, Gawler East, Evanston Park & Evanston would be ideal as a starter connecting with the train at Gawler or Gawler Central railway station to allow greater access to train services to other northern suburbs or the CBD.
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Re: Public Transport boost pledged by ALP

#966 Post by Aidan » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:05 pm

Wilfy 2007 wrote:Hi,
I wonder on the morning of the Election how much money has been allocated for the expansion of the Adelaide Railway System past it's present boundaries.
I have said all along the Rann Government is City Centric.
When will they start spending money on the Outer Rail areas of the City.
Rail needs to be run to Mount Barker, Aldinga, Buckland Park, Riverton, Kapunda and last but not least the Barossa, the number 1 visitors destination for Aussie visitors and the number 5 destination for winery visitors in the world.
Rail to outlying destinations would be nice, but it's not anywhere near as important as building a railway under the City.

As for the destinations you've listed, why Riverton? Why Mount Barker when the trains will take so much longer than the buses? And how are you proposing to send trains to Buckland Park?
Why has Rann not made these plans in his election run up to today, in my opinion he is hoodwinking the South Australian public.
How can he be hoodwinking the public when there's no deception? Rann never said he would give those places rail services, and he's unlikely to start doing so now.
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Re: Public Transport boost pledged by ALP

#967 Post by skyliner » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:53 pm

Wilfy 2007 wrote:Hi,
I wonder on the morning of the Election how much money has been allocated for the expansion of the Adelaide Railway System past it's present boundaries.
I have said all along the Rann Government is City Centric.
When will they start spending money on the Outer Rail areas of the City.
Rail needs to be run to Mount Barker, Aldinga, Buckland Park, Riverton, Kapunda and last but not least the Barossa, the number 1 visitors destination for Aussie visitors and the number 5 destination for winery visitors in the world.

Why has Rann not made these plans in his election run up to today, in my opinion he is hoodwinking the South Australian public.

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Wify207 Concerning the Barossa - is this the number one winery destination for Australian visitors - can't be anything else - Sydney is a far greater crowd puller. however, it would be the actual numbers going to the Barossa that would count concering a rail proposal. IMO it would be great to see rail, there again, but feasability would carry the day on this one.

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Re: Public Transport boost pledged by ALP

#968 Post by ChrisRT » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:44 am

Wilfy 2007 wrote:Hi,
I wonder on the morning of the Election how much money has been allocated for the expansion of the Adelaide Railway System past it's present boundaries.
I have said all along the Rann Government is City Centric.
When will they start spending money on the Outer Rail areas of the City.
Rail needs to be run to Mount Barker, Aldinga, Buckland Park, Riverton, Kapunda and last but not least the Barossa, the number 1 visitors destination for Aussie visitors and the number 5 destination for winery visitors in the world.

Why has Rann not made these plans in his election run up to today, in my opinion he is hoodwinking the South Australian public.

Regards,
Why build more rail lines when our existing rail infrastructure is heavily underutilised? We need more 'turn up and go' services on existing lines like the city tram shuttle not more lines. Bus routes could then be redesigned to better integrate with the rail 'spines' to make the overall, end-to-end journey faster and more pleasant.

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Re: Electrification and Resleepering of TransAdelaide Network

#969 Post by Waewick » Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:39 pm

I realise this may not be the correct thread, but I wonder if there is anyway of confirming the Rann Governments intentions over the next 4 years, in terms of tram and rail?

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Re: Electrification and Resleepering of TransAdelaide Network

#970 Post by monotonehell » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:10 pm

capitalist wrote:I realise this may not be the correct thread, but I wonder if there is anyway of confirming the Rann Governments intentions over the next 4 years, in terms of tram and rail?
Instead of posting the idea all over the forums. How about making a list of Labor's promises, posting that somewhere in the Pub, and revisiting it once a month? Take the initiative! :)
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Re: Electrification and Resleepering of TransAdelaide Network

#971 Post by Waewick » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:50 pm

whilst i do like the idea that i thought i've i'm clearly to lazy to do it :)

this was a specific question in relation to the train network

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Re: Electrification and Resleepering of TransAdelaide Networ

#972 Post by Waewick » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:26 pm

the southern messenger reports that the seaford line is going to be interuppted by Aboriginal sacred sites and an alternate routes needs to be found

that is going to be interesting.

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Re: Electrification and Resleepering of TransAdelaide Networ

#973 Post by skyliner » Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:23 pm

This was not researched beforehand??? Could be a serious problem - financially. (not familiar with aboriginal sacred sites around there).

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Re: Electrification and Resleepering of TransAdelaide Networ

#974 Post by Aidan » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:23 am

skyliner wrote:This was not researched beforehand??? Could be a serious problem - financially. (not familiar with aboriginal sacred sites around there).
On the contrary, it's a blessing in disguise! This gives us a new opportunity to switch to the PB / Onkaparinga Council alignment which is cheaper to construct and has the Seaford Meadows station on high ground in the middle of the development. This makes it more energy efficient, requires fewer feeder bus routes, and would turn Seaford Meadows into one of Adelaide's most desirable suburbs, whereas the existing masterplan would turn it into one of the least desirable.
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Re: Electrification and Resleepering of TransAdelaide Networ

#975 Post by Waewick » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:20 am

whilst it may be a benefit.. I don't mean to be rude but seaford medows as adelaides most desirable suburbs :lol:

hopefully your positivity rubs off and they can manage to make a positive out of a negative :cheers:

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