[COM] Rundle Place | 76m | 15lvls | Retail & Office

[monotonehell]

But, there's been several press releases that show the old car park not only staying but being connected at the top floor to a car park extension on the roof of the new retail structure.

There have? The public consultation plans had no expansion of the car park at all.

I might have to take that back. I'm sure that point was posted somewhere in this thread, but I can't find it now. - One of the renders showed it.

[Prince George]

But are you saying that the carpark is going to change owners?

[monotonehell]

But are you saying that the carpark is going to change owners?

I didn't think so until David P posted his latest "notes" there was mention of a reclassification from community holding so it could be sold. That was the first I heard of it.

[pushbutton]

Still waiting patiently.........are we there yet?

[Ben]

From The Messenger:

Typo re 13 levels.

You park, we sell off

22 Apr 10 @ 12:01pm

by Emily Charrison

OPPOSED: Cr Sandy Wilkinson wants more consultation about the fate of the council-owned Grenfell St U-Park.

THE council-owned Grenfell St U-Park is being readied for sale so the $150 million Harris Scarfe redevelopment can go ahead, amid complaints of insufficient public consultation.

Public feedback in now being sought by the City Council on a plan to revoke the carpark’s community land status for sale to Australian Pacific Supermarkets, the Victorian-based company behind the adjoining Harris Scarfe overhaul.

The redevelopment - which involves an already approved 13-storey office and retail tower - hinges on the use of the U-Park’s basement for truck loading and the level four for car parking. The council will not reveal the value of the U-Park or Pacific’s asking price, citing commercial-in-confidence.

Cr Sandy Wilkinson, who has opposed the redevelopment owing to the loss of Harris Scarfe’s heritage facades, said the sale process was going ahead without enough consultation.

“Public consultation where notices are buried at the back of a newspaper are invariably overlooked by the public,” he said.

Cr Wilkinson said the sale would “spell the end of cheap public parking” if the site went to private hands.

“One of the reasons why the council bought and developed car parking stations was to provide cheap parking in the city to counter the increasing retail draw away from the city.”

However, Lord Mayor Michael Harbison said the council wanted to sell the carpark to help rejuvenate Rundle Mall.

“It’s certainly the council’s preference to sell the carpark to facilitate the redevelopment because we think it will be important for the future development of the Mall,” he said. “But we do have to listen to the public.”

[Will]

It is these councillors such as Sandy Wilkinson, who hails directly from planet nostalgia that give the ACC and Adelaide in general such a bad image.

Cheap parking? the parking offered by the council owned carparks is not significantly cheaper than that offered by private operators. Furthermore, why should there be more beaurocracy in further public consultation for what is a complying development?

[iTouch]

This project is the only 100m+ building that has gotten this far in 20 years, I was waiting for opposition to arise. Let's just hope they can overcome this obstacle

[Will]

This project is the only 100m+ building that has gotten this far in 20 years, I was waiting for opposition to arise. Let's just hope they can overcome this obstacle

the 20-22 Currie Street and the Spire Apartment building got this far too.

[iTouch]

This project is the only 100m+ building that has gotten this far in 20 years, I was waiting for opposition to arise. Let's just hope they can overcome this obstacle

the 20-22 Currie Street and the Spire Apartment building got this far too.

Sorry, I forgot about those Although I disagree about Spire, it got to the approval stage but it was an empty promise from the beginning.

[AtD]

This is the first time anyone has mentioned that the development 'hinged' on the car park and it's loading dock. It's always been stated that the current leasing arrangements of the basement and ground floor to Harris Scarfe will continue. Why the sudden change? Or is the Messenger trying to sex up their story?

[SRW]

This is the first time anyone has mentioned that the development 'hinged' on the car park and it's loading dock. It's always been stated that the current leasing arrangements of the basement and ground floor to Harris Scarfe will continue. Why the sudden change? Or is the Messenger trying to sex up their story?

Yes, I'm a bit confused by it. Surely this project has nothing much to do with the ownership of the car park? On that point though, if ownership does switch to the developers, will it remain a car park? I hope they have bigger plans for the site.

[monotonehell]

...Cheap parking? the parking offered by the council owned carparks is not significantly cheaper than that offered by private operators.

The private car parks' prices are kept down by the council's price setting. If it wasn't for their competition parking prices across the CBD would be higher. And I beg to differ that the prices aren't cheaper; compare the Myer Centre to Rundle, Grenfell or Gawler place - close to half the price.

Yes, I'm a bit confused by it. Surely this project has nothing much to do with the ownership of the car park? On that point though, if ownership does switch to the developers, will it remain a car park? I hope they have bigger plans for the site.

I continue to hope that they demolish that car park, its concrete is worn and the surface is crumbling. The drainage in the place doesn't work. When it rains the ground level is often flooded and water flows out of gaps in the floors above. BUT judging by the renders I've seen, every indication is that they intend to keep the structure and as a car park. I suppose a retail centre like this would like a car park.

[Waewick]

hopefully the construction includes involving the drainage problems that you see.

[skyliner]

One would think so anyway. Time for the carpark to go IMO, esp if prices aren't any cheaper as Mono indicates - this seems to be a sticking point.

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE

[pushbutton]

Sorry if it's been said before but Skyliners avatar has just made me think that a really simple way to encourage more people to shop in Rundle Mall would be to try offering 2 hours free parking in any carpark in the CBD (funded by the council). IF NECESSARY this could be made available only if shoppers can prove they have spent a minimum specified amount in city centre shops.

2 hours should be sufficient for most peoples shopping needs and would ensure a reasonably rapid turnover of carparking spaces thereby allowing more people in total to park for shopping throughout the day. Charges would apply after 2 hours but would start fairly low (only a couple of dollars for the 3rd hour) then increase rapidly for each additional hour thereafter, to further encourage that turnover of shopper carparking spaces without really penalising people who want to shop for just a bit more than 2 hours (they'd only have to pay a couple of dollars for the 3rd hour).

Each carpark could have a certain percentage of its spaces dedicated to shoppers and a certain percentage for people parking all day (to work in the city centre). The all day spaces would be on the top levels of the carparks making it a bit easier for shoppers to get in and out throughout the day.

I wonder if this has ever been tried?