#Official - Demographics

[yousername]

hmm. We'll be needing some 200m+ residential buildings in the CBD to hold all these people

[iTouch]

These stupid Adelaidenow commentors are so thick in the head that they forgot to read that its saying the STATE of South Australia will hit 1.7 million in 3 years. Not Adelaide... This could mean that population is growing fast in rural areas. I don't know, the article isn't giving enough information. But seriously those F***ing Adelaidenow commentors need to be beaten with a 2X4

[crawf]

Adelaide is now a city of over 1.2 million people due to places like Mt Barker, Hahndorf, Lobethal etc are now included in the metropolitan area.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected] ... num=&view=

Adelaide

The Capital City definition of Adelaide has extended from the current SD to the north and significantly to the east. To the east the Capital City definition has extended to include a larger area of the Adelaide Hills; towns such as Mt Barker and Lobethal are now included because of the significant commuting interaction with Adelaide. In the north the new boundary has been extended out to contain Gawler as well as Roseworthy and Two Wells, both of which have been identified as possible future growth areas in the Greater Adelaide 30 year plan.

[iTouch]

Itouch has a sense that Mount Compass and Murray Bridge may be included as "metropolitan" in the next decade.

[skyliner]

So weve made it to 1.2m!!! I always thought that Gawler was in the SD - but I was going by only a few kilometres physical separation from the continuous Adelaide suburban sprawl. It seems the definition of a SD goes by commuter levels from the places of concern now.

SA - STATE ON THE MOVE

[AtD]

It depends which ABS publication you're looking at. For example, regional population growth includes Gawler and its 20,730 residents as part of Adelaide's SD, but doesn't include Mt. Barker.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected] ... num=&view=
Population Density


In the above area the population is 1,187,466. The Adelaide Hills Council is already partially included, but there's two areas excluded. Mt. Barker District Council is excluded entirely.

So I think the new area will include parts of these four local areas:

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Adelaide Hills (DC) - North     7,010
Adelaide Hills (DC) Bal         9,235
Mount Barker (DC) - Central    20,870
Mount Barker (DC) Bal           8,994

Total Mt Lofty Ranges          46,109

Adelaide + Mt Lofty Ranges  1,233,575

However this is a very large area and I wouldn't be surprised if some of those borders are redrawn and the further towns exluded.

[rhino]

However this is a very large area and I wouldn't be surprised if some of those borders are redrawn and the further towns exluded.

Yes, while a lot of people commute from Mount Barker to Adelaide daily, not too many from Kanmantoo, Callington, or Meadows do.

[flavze]

However this is a very large area and I wouldn't be surprised if some of those borders are redrawn and the further towns exluded.

Yes, while a lot of people commute from Mount Barker to Adelaide daily, not too many from Kanmantoo, Callington, or Meadows do.

you'd be surprised how many do, i had a mate looking at buying a house at callington and his wife works in the city. He currently lives at Nairne and it takes no longer from Callington to get to the city. I also think you'd be surprised how many travel from Meadows into the city also, it's a popular place for people who want a few acres to have a horse or two whilst still close enough to town to commute to.

[rhino]

However this is a very large area and I wouldn't be surprised if some of those borders are redrawn and the further towns exluded.

Yes, while a lot of people commute from Mount Barker to Adelaide daily, not too many from Kanmantoo, Callington, or Meadows do.

you'd be surprised how many do, i had a mate looking at buying a house at callington and his wife works in the city. He currently lives at Nairne and it takes no longer from Callington to get to the city. I also think you'd be surprised how many travel from Meadows into the city also, it's a popular place for people who want a few acres to have a horse or two whilst still close enough to town to commute to.

I too know a few people in Callington and Meadows, and even Strathalbyn, who work in the city, but that doesn't mean that these towns should be part of the Adelaide Statistical Division, as most of the people there work locally. I also know people from Murray Bridge, Victor Harbor, Port Elliot and Goolwa who work in the city, but, similarly, those places should not be part of the Adelaide Statistical Division as the commuters are minimal in number compared to the towns' population.

[skyliner]

I think the SD should be the continuous urban built up area plus a FEW Ks past only. Gets too minsleading with aso many of the Hills areas included. Where we live (Kalbar - 85 KM out of Bris CBD), it has just been included in Bris SD but it is an entirely rural area with none of the features of cities at all.

SA - STATE ON THE MOVE

[flavze]

I too know a few people in Callington and Meadows, and even Strathalbyn, who work in the city, but that doesn't mean that these towns should be part of the Adelaide Statistical Division, as most of the people there work locally. I also know people from Murray Bridge, Victor Harbor, Port Elliot and Goolwa who work in the city, but, similarly, those places should not be part of the Adelaide Statistical Division as the commuters are minimal in number compared to the towns' population.

oh i agree that they shouldn't be included as Adelaide residents, especially those towns further out than Mt Barker.
Whilst i wouldn't include the central hills towns either, the majority of new residents in the new housing developments throughout the hills areas would be city workers or mine workers as there hasn't been to much new employment generated in the area over the last few years.

[iTouch]

I just went for a drive through the hills (lobethal, stirling, hahndorf area) and i was amazed at how urbanised it's getting. Especially Stirling.

I'm no demographer or census guy but my theory is this: wherever the bus reaches, it should be counted as Metropolitan population. The bus reaches hahndorf, lobethal, Mount Lofty, Gawler, etc therefore they should be counted

[Aidan]

I just went for a drive through the hills (lobethal, stirling, hahndorf area) and i was amazed at how urbanised it's getting. Especially Stirling.

I'm no demographer or census guy but my theory is this: wherever the bus reaches, it should be counted as Metropolitan population. The bus reaches hahndorf, lobethal, Mount Lofty, Gawler, etc therefore they should be counted

The bus doesn't actually reach Gawler.

[skyliner]

So to continue what I said on 24/5/10, we have successfully pointed out it is it is fraught with difficulties, anomolies, inconsistencies and seems very misleading. Again, using Kalbar, VERY few commute to Brisbane localities, yet it is STILL Bris. SD. How does this work? AS we've shown in various posts
several places in Adelaide SD are the same.

SA - STATE ON THE MOVE

[AtD]

I would guess that the ABS determine the number of commuters from the Census data.