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#451 Post by Mants » Wed May 05, 2010 4:47 am

i know the central markets car park do that on a sunday, as well as the norwood place carpark

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#452 Post by monotonehell » Wed May 05, 2010 4:38 pm

pushbutton wrote:Sorry if it's been said before but Skyliners avatar has just made me think that a really simple way to encourage more people to shop in Rundle Mall would be to try offering 2 hours free parking in any carpark in the CBD (funded by the council). IF NECESSARY this could be made available only if shoppers can prove they have spent a minimum specified amount in city centre shops.

2 hours should be sufficient for most peoples shopping needs and would ensure a reasonably rapid turnover of carparking spaces thereby allowing more people in total to park for shopping throughout the day. Charges would apply after 2 hours but would start fairly low (only a couple of dollars for the 3rd hour) then increase rapidly for each additional hour thereafter, to further encourage that turnover of shopper carparking spaces without really penalising people who want to shop for just a bit more than 2 hours (they'd only have to pay a couple of dollars for the 3rd hour).

Each carpark could have a certain percentage of its spaces dedicated to shoppers and a certain percentage for people parking all day (to work in the city centre). The all day spaces would be on the top levels of the carparks making it a bit easier for shoppers to get in and out throughout the day.

I wonder if this has ever been tried?
The council did trial a two hours free deal over last Xmas, not sure how it went. But the council owned UParks around Rundle Mall (and Central Market) are rated so the first two hours are far cheaper than long term parking to encourage shoppers in those parks and discourage all day parkers.
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#453 Post by Ben » Thu May 06, 2010 1:43 pm

From The City Messenger:
It’s last drinks for Axel Beers

06 May 10 @ 12:01pm by Emily Charrison

WELL-known men’s fashion retailer Axel Beers is closing its doors after nearly three decades in town.

The formalwear shop, which opened in Francis St just off Rundle Mall in 1983, is likely to close next month.

Owner Axel Beers said he had “fallen victim” to the planned $150 million Harris Scarfe redevelopment.

The Harris Scarf building, along with four others, will be bulldozed to make way for an already approved 13-storey office and retail tower, although a date for construction works has not been set.

“When they do the redevelopment and the buildings get demolished we’ll get demolished with it,” Mr Beers said.

“We’re not really happy about it but we’ve got to be realistic.”

Mr Beers said he was unable to find another premises to relocate to because Mall rents were too expensive and he did not want to be in a shopping centre.

“We’re not interested in all those shopping centres and that there’s no atmosphere and the rent would kill us. If we want to re-site ourselves we want to do it in a situation we’re happy with and we haven’t found that.”

The Harris Scarfe redevelopment, first proposed in 2008, now hinges on the sale of the City Council’s Grenfell St U-Park so the basement can be used for truck loading and level four for carparking.

Public consultation on revoking the carpark’s community land status for sale to Australian Pacific Supermarkets, the company behind the overhaul, closed yesterday, (Wednesday, May 5).

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#454 Post by Waewick » Thu May 06, 2010 2:19 pm

whilst i'm sorry to hear of a upmarket clothing store closing down, I hope like hell they hurry up with this development

off topic I guess, but I would have thought Axle Beers would be a perfect fit down rundle street or down one of the side streets.

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#455 Post by mattblack » Fri May 07, 2010 6:15 pm

Ben wrote:From The City Messenger:
It’s last drinks for Axel Beers

06 May 10 @ 12:01pm by Emily Charrison

WELL-known men’s fashion retailer Axel Beers is closing its doors after nearly three decades in town.

The formalwear shop, which opened in Francis St just off Rundle Mall in 1983, is likely to close next month.

Owner Axel Beers said he had “fallen victim” to the planned $150 million Harris Scarfe redevelopment.

The Harris Scarf building, along with four others, will be bulldozed to make way for an already approved 13-storey office and retail tower, although a date for construction works has not been set.

“When they do the redevelopment and the buildings get demolished we’ll get demolished with it,” Mr Beers said.

“We’re not really happy about it but we’ve got to be realistic.”

Mr Beers said he was unable to find another premises to relocate to because Mall rents were too expensive and he did not want to be in a shopping centre.

“We’re not interested in all those shopping centres and that there’s no atmosphere and the rent would kill us. If we want to re-site ourselves we want to do it in a situation we’re happy with and we haven’t found that.”

The Harris Scarfe redevelopment, first proposed in 2008, now hinges on the sale of the City Council’s Grenfell St U-Park so the basement can be used for truck loading and level four for carparking.

Public consultation on revoking the carpark’s community land status for sale to Australian Pacific Supermarkets, the company behind the overhaul, closed yesterday, (Wednesday, May 5).


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#456 Post by Professor » Sat May 08, 2010 10:56 am

I thought this was a building much higher than 13 floors?

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#457 Post by Ben » Sat May 08, 2010 12:06 pm

Professor wrote:I thought this was a building much higher than 13 floors?
It's the second time they have said that in 2 weeks. It's the same writer and I have told her, but she is choosing not to listen or unless she knows something we don't but no amendments to the 21 level proposal have been received at this stage.

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#458 Post by Dr Rudi » Sun May 16, 2010 12:37 pm

whilst i'm sorry to hear of a upmarket clothing store closing down
Axel Beers ? Upmarket ? You're kidding.

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#459 Post by Ben » Mon May 24, 2010 12:47 pm

Traders oppose sale of Grenfell St carpark

SHERADYN HOLDERHEAD From: The Advertiser May 24, 2010 12:01AM

The Harris Scarfe Carpark on Grenfell Street, Adelaide.
Source: AdelaideNow


PARKING costs in the Rundle Mall precinct could increase if the proposed sale of the city council-owned Grenfell St UPark goes ahead.

Key Rundle Mall property figures told The Advertiser if the council finalised its plan to sell the 504-space carpark, it must maintain control of the pricing structure to stop a commercial owner increasing prices.

Adelaide Arcade Pty Ltd chairman Ian Wilson said unless current pricing was maintained the sale would have a very serious effect on retailers in the Mall.

"Rundle Mall and all the branch shopping centres, Adelaide Arcade included, are competing with regional shopping centres that have free parking," he said.

"What Adelaide City Council should be doing is keeping their car parks and managing them so they are not filled up with all day parkers . . . "

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Regent Arcade owner Zis Ginos agreed the council must maintain control of the carpark to keep parking in the area affordable.

"I think that the council is responsible to provide cheaper and better carparking for shoppers," he said.

"Whoever buys it (the carpark) should be forced to keep the council's rates or cheaper.

"The only way to get more shoppers is to provide easier and cheaper carparks."

Rundle Mall retailer Dennis Karis, who owns a number of shops including Shades, said the sale of the carpark would be a "sad loss".

It's very important they don't give that carpark to commercial operator because it will push prices up," he said

"People do get upset when they see parking prices have come up."

At the May 10 Adelaide City Council meeting, a motion was carried for the council to seek approval from the State/Local Government Relations Minister to revoke the current Community Land classification of the site so it could be sold.

Lord Mayor Michael Harbison said the future of the redevelopment of Harris Scarfe in Rundle Mall hinges on the sale of the carpark.

"We wouldn't agree to sell such a prime asset if it wasn't going to be so important for the future retail in the city," he said.

Mr Harbison said he believed any commercial owner would seek to fill the carpark and therefore prices would not increase.

"No you can't guarantee it (that a commercial owner would not increase prices) but you can make a reasonable prediction based on market factors and owners desire to make an income."

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#460 Post by crawf » Mon May 24, 2010 3:26 pm

Oh FFS!

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#461 Post by Hindley Street Alley » Mon May 24, 2010 4:11 pm

crawf wrote:Oh FFS!
My thoughts exactly

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#462 Post by Mpol » Mon May 24, 2010 5:56 pm

crawf wrote:Oh FFS!
Well said. :applause:

Shit like this must really piss developers off. It just puts them off doing business in our city. Can't blame them.

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#463 Post by rev » Mon May 24, 2010 8:39 pm

Is there a way to tell all the whingers in this state a big collective SHUT THE F*#$ UP from the silent majority of South Australia?
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#464 Post by iTouch » Mon May 24, 2010 9:35 pm

crawf wrote:Oh FFS!
says Jesus

I wish that every night a construction company of 50 workers would go to the Harris scarfe site and commence work without anyone knowing. Then one day, we look up and realise there's a 102m skyscraper in the air :P
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#465 Post by iTouch » Mon May 24, 2010 9:41 pm

then again, who knows? maybe the developers will add a couple of extra levels to accomodate for parking which would raise the height? I'm trying to be optimistic here, please don't bring me down :(
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