[COM] Adelaide Oval Redevelopment

[Ho Really]

Seriously how many times a year do we see conditions like this?

We don't need a roof over the oval, what we need is better spectator facilities

agree Mr Crawf

The new AO proposal has about 70% of spectators under cover which is perfect IMO. Theres really not many full enclosed, undercover football stadiums in the world, so its not as if we're 'behind the times' and I dont think we really need one with our dryish climate

Take a good look at the renderings of the Adelaide Oval redevelopment. Do those on the eastern stand get adequate cover from the weather? In winter should it rain, it will mostly come from the south-west or west. Not much cover there. In summer, on the hottest days the heat and sun come from the west. Again not much cover there. So, I wouldn't take that 70% at heart. Anyway, there's also that stupid gap between the new western stand and the current Bradman Stand where wind will rush through in winter. The bigger the stands there, more the effect.

What gets to me is why can't they design a stadium that is symmetrical? Why does Adelaide have to have such shit looking stadia? AAMI is like a pizza with bits added on, and so is Hindmarsh Stadium. Now Adelaide Oval will probably end up the same. Is it a disease we have here that everything we design is at half-measure or on the cheap? I really hope this project doesn't happen because as I have said before, it won't serve soccer's purpose in any way for the World Cup (if we even get the thing). I would rather have land bought around Hindmarsh Stadium (have the church moved) and have Manton Street undergrounded and Holden Street closed off so it can be enlarged and covered all way round. Probably do that for less the $300m. Not the best solution or popular, but it may work. Your thoughts?

Cheers

[Ho Really]

cant believe how Labor have managed to cock this up

they had a sound enough plan with their hospital and thought they'd lose an election over a half baked copy and paste stadium plan by the Libs such that they came up with another half baked plan for Adelaide Oval.

its no wonder this state is going nowhere with such talent in our major political parties.

LOL. The Libs plan still looked better. I agree about the crap we get up to in this state. Read my previous thought about our stadiums.

Cheers

[ricecrackers]

Seriously how many times a year do we see conditions like this?

We don't need a roof over the oval, what we need is better spectator facilities

agree Mr Crawf

The new AO proposal has about 70% of spectators under cover which is perfect IMO. Theres really not many full enclosed, undercover football stadiums in the world, so its not as if we're 'behind the times' and I dont think we really need one with our dryish climate

Take a good look at the renderings of the Adelaide Oval redevelopment. Do those on the eastern stand get adequate cover from the weather? In winter should it rain, it will mostly come from the south-west or west. Not much cover there. In summer, on the hottest days the heat and sun come from the west. Again not much cover there. So, I wouldn't take that 70% at heart. Anyway, there's also that stupid gap between the new western stand and the current Bradman Stand where wind will rush through in winter. The bigger the stands there, more the effect.

What gets to me is why can't they design a stadium that is symmetrical? Why does Adelaide have to have such shit looking stadia? AAMI is like a pizza with bits added on, and so is Hindmarsh Stadium. Now Adelaide Oval will probably end up the same. Is it a disease we have here that everything we design is at half-measure or on the cheap? I really hope this project doesn't happen because as I have said before, it won't serve soccer's purpose in any way for the World Cup (if we even get the thing). I would rather have land bought around Hindmarsh Stadium (have the church moved) and have Manton Street undergrounded and Holden Street closed off so it can be enlarged and covered all way round. Probably do that for less the $300m. Not the best solution or popular, but it may work. Your thoughts?

Cheers

the way things are headed Adelaide United probably wont exist for much longer
their new backers have pulled out

[Waewick]

Mr Foley also revealed during the 891 ABC Adelaide interview that the Stadium Management Authority was now canvassing reducing the seating capacity from 50,000 to 45,000 to save money.

However, Mr McLachlan said he had no idea when the committee told the Government about increased costs.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/treasurer ... 5874626814

This is almost so pathetic and typcial of this government its not funny.

lets hold another election please i cant stand another 3 years of this.

[Xaragmata]

lets hold another election please i cant stand another 3 years of this.

Would you believe 4 years?

[Waewick]

for some reason I thought we were a year into the term

going to be a very long and wasteful 4 years...well on the stadium situation I guess.

[rhino]

Mr Foley also revealed during the 891 ABC Adelaide interview that the Stadium Management Authority was now canvassing reducing the seating capacity from 50,000 to 45,000 to save money.

Do you really think the SANFL will agree to moving to a stadium with only 45000 seats? Giving up 1515 seats to move into the CBD is different to giving up 6515 seats.

[waz94]

Mr Foley also revealed during the 891 ABC Adelaide interview that the Stadium Management Authority was now canvassing reducing the seating capacity from 50,000 to 45,000 to save money.

Please say it aint so.

This is becoming extremely embarassing for SA more and more everyday. Im a big fan of a new or redeveloped inner city stadium but for Gods Sake can we at least do it right and not a half arsed attempt. I would rather keep things the way they are for another decade then waste $500 million plus on a 45000 seat patch up job.

[Pants]

He is only now forced to admit his lie because the Opposition put in a freedom of information act request for information and a staff member has come up with a diary entry they couldn't shred.

You'd want to be pretty sure about that if you're putting it out there.

[PJK1]

Hi - new on here.

I heard the 891 interview with Kevin Foley this AM. The subject of the 45,000 stadium capacity came up as a result of Matt Abraham (I think) telling Foley he had heard from a source that the SMA was looking at a reduced capacity of 40,000. Foley responded that he was not aware of that, however he went on to confirm that a reduction to 45,000 was being considered on account of cost.

[Waewick]

I think there is a big fat ride that this state is going to be taken on.

I would admit however that what is written in the papers and what Foley says is probably vastly different to what is actually going on.

[silverscreen]

Would love to be a fly on the wall when Ian McLachlan and Kevin Foley next meet seeing as it was McLachlan who first blew the whistle on 891 on Wednesday about his early, (ultimately embarrassing) warnings on the tough financial situation facing the Stadium committee. It's fairly obvious that that was what jolted the Treasurer's memory.
As they say, with friends like that ........

[ginger-geordie]

This is so embarassing and annoying. I wouldnt be surprised if this reached $600-700million and imagine how much better that money could be spent. the victoria square developments, more 'rundle lanterns' on rundle mall, for example. but how can it cost this much to add an extra 15000 seats? aviva stadium cost about the same, its a beautiful, respectable stadium with 50000 seats ( and more if it wasnt for the railway line next to the stadium). why cant we build something like that, and leave the oval as it is, a 36000 seater for cricket with a new stand. So you would have a new 60000 stadium on the railyards, and also possibly have money left over to build another attraction in the cbd. problem sorted. i reckon there will be people saying how this cant happen and all that jazz, but its all good debate and good progress.

[ricecrackers]

Mr Foley also revealed during the 891 ABC Adelaide interview that the Stadium Management Authority was now canvassing reducing the seating capacity from 50,000 to 45,000 to save money.

However, Mr McLachlan said he had no idea when the committee told the Government about increased costs.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/treasurer ... 5874626814

This is almost so pathetic and typcial of this government its not funny.

lets hold another election please i cant stand another 3 years of this.

these muppets dont know when to stop

[Paulns]

What else are these clowns in Government not telling us???? Time for a re-election.