[COM] Adelaide Oval Redevelopment

[Matt]

ADELAIDE OVAL STADIUM MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY
DESIGN BRIEFING ? FACT SHEET

KEY FACTS OF DESIGN CONCEPTS
? The seating capacity of Adelaide Oval under these proposed design concepts will be
50,000.
? The current concept designs will deliver 77% of seats under cover. This compares
favorably with other stadia, with 75% coverage at the MCG, 68% at the SCG and 78%
at the GABBA.
? There will be more than 2,000 dining spaces as well as hospitality suites, open boxes,
open bars, BBQ terraces and food courts.
In addition, the design concepts demonstrate the replacement of SACA facilities including
indoor training facilities, the relocation of the Bradman Collection, new SACA offices and more.

FOOTBALL FAN FACILITY
There will be a football fan facility similar to the “Crows Shed” and the “Hanger” at AAMI
Stadium. It will be of equal size and will have equivalent facilities to the new Crows Westpac
Centre with the capacity to hold more than 3,000 patrons. This facility will be located within
the stadium.
This facility will also accommodate a new state?of?the?art indoor training facility and gym for
cricket and other sports.

PUBLIC SPACES
The southern entry to the stadium will be via a public terrace which will be connected to the
city by a new footbridge. This terrace will be similar in size to Federation Square in Melbourne
and can be used by fans pre and post match and for other public events.

CAR PARKING
The SMA is putting together a comprehensive, detailed transport strategy that includes car
parking, public transport and park and ride elements.
The SMA is targeting 3800 car parks adjacent to the stadium that is football’s minimum
requirements.
The SMA is also investigating a car park under the tennis courts that would become an
extension of the Next Generation car park. If viable, this would be commercially funded and
will not require any State Government funding. The lawn tennis courts will also remain.
There are currently 2,100 existing car parks on the parklands surrounding Adelaide Oval that
are currently used. There are no plans to increase that number. These match day car parks can
be used for tail gate BBQs.
There will not be an above ground multi?storey car park in the parklands.

PARKLANDS
At this stage of the concept design, the east stand will extend 9m to 15m further east. Current
indications are there could be a significant overall net return of parklands and public spaces.

FINANCIAL UPLIFT
The SMA is following a structured process and is undertaking several activities to meet the
State Government deadline of August 31st 2010. Determining the uplift for the Port Adelaide
Football Club and the Adelaide Football Club is one of the key activities to be met by the August
31 deadline.

PROJECT COST
The concepts being presented today are not final designs, and therefore the costings are not
final. We are undertaking a comprehensive value engineering and design optimisation process
which will further refine all elements of the project.
We understand the State Government’s funding contribution is $535 million, including the $85
million payment to the SACA for its assets and facilities, and that it will not fund any costs in
excess of the $535 million.
At the conclusion of the design phase a construction budget will be agreed. Final costs will be
determined following the conclusion of a transparent tender process. Anything in excess of
Government funding will be a matter for the SMA to consider.

BACKGROUND
The Stadium Management Authority (SMA) is a joint venture between the South Australian
Cricket Association and the South Australian National Football League.
The SMA aims to bring football and cricket together at a newly?developed Adelaide Oval,
creating a world?class stadium in the heart of Adelaide.

DESIGNERS
The SMA design team consists of a team of leading architects, engineers and urban planners,
including Cox Architects and Planners, Jackson Architecture, Walter Brooke, Aurecon, QED and
Bestec. Their collective expertise includes projects such as Etihad Stadium, the MCG
redevelopment, The GABBA, Melbourne rectangular stadium, SUNCORP Stadium, Wembley
Stadium (UK) and Eden Park (NZ). Further information on the relevant expertise of these three
companies can be found at their web sites:
? www.coxarchitects.com.au
? www.daryljackson.com.au
? www.walterbrooke.com.au
? www.aurecon.com.au
? www.qed.com.au
? www.bestec.com.au

PROJECT DIRECTORS
There are eight unpaid Directors of the SMA, with cricket and football represented equally. The
Directors are:
? Ian McLachlan (Chairman)
? Leigh Whicker (CEO)
? Creagh O'Connor
? John Bannon
? John Harnden
? Rod Payze
? James Coppins
? Phil Gallagher

GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE
See SMA Organisational Chart.

WORKING GROUPS
The SMA has established two key working parties: the Precinct and Stadium Development
Group and the Financial and Membership Group.
? The Precinct and Stadium Group is responsible for the developing feasibility plans and
risk assessments for the precinct and stadium redevelopment, including design,
transport and car parking, development and construction.
? The Finance and Membership Group is responsible for developing a financial model
and risk assessments for the stadium, including rental and ground management fees,
membership models, costing and distribution frameworks.

PROCESS
The 50,000 seat redevelopment of Adelaide Oval is still at the proposal stage. The SMA is
following a structured process and is undertaking several activities to meet the State
Government deadline of August 31st 2010. The key activities include:
? Finalisation of the design concept following consultation with key stakeholders.
? Reaching agreement on the Adelaide Oval Precinct extent and planning to
accommodate the stadium operations.
? Finalisation of the financial modelling to determine the uplift for the Port Adelaide
Football Club and the Adelaide Football Club.
? Further consultation with SACA Members and the SANFL Board representing the
South Australian football clubs.
? Finalisation of an agreement between cricket and football that ensures that the
new precinct and stadium is operated for the benefit of the SACA/SANFL and the
people of South Australia.

THE PRECINCT
The ‘Precinct’ is bounded by King William Street, Memorial Drive, Montefiore Road and
Pennington Terrace.

[Paulns]

Some good photos and updates here from the SACA website..

http://www.cricketsa.com.au/content.aspx?p=396

[spiller]

SACA member by any chance matt?

I'd like to highlight some of the info that matt put up:

The seating capacity of Adelaide Oval under these proposed design concepts will be
50,000. The current concept designs will deliver 77% of seats under cover. This compares
favorably with other stadia, with 75% coverage at the MCG, 68% at the SCG and 78%
at the GABBA.

so 23% of the crowd getting wet, 3 maybe 4 times in 22 minor round matches over the course of an AFL season is grounds for spending an extra 200 or 300 million on a stadium with a roof? Whomever posted that comment about the footbridge needing a roof, seriously, that had to be a joke? A footbridge...with...a........roof?

[Pants]

what a terrible design

Insightful.

[Pants]

SACA member by any chance matt?

I'd like to highlight some of the info that matt put up:

The seating capacity of Adelaide Oval under these proposed design concepts will be
50,000. The current concept designs will deliver 77% of seats under cover. This compares
favorably with other stadia, with 75% coverage at the MCG, 68% at the SCG and 78%
at the GABBA.

so 27% of the crowd getting wet, 3 maybe 4 times in 22 minor round matches over the course of an AFL season is grounds for spending an extra 200 or 300 million on a stadium with a roof? Whomever posted that comment about the footbridge needing a roof, seriously, that had to be a joke? A footbridge...with...a........roof?

+1

[Pants]

Here's a link to the video:

http://player.video.news.com.au/adelaid ... y_Scnoq1Zz


Those more technologically adept than me are encouraged to actually post it in.

Gotta say, it's pretty impressive.

Wonder if those calling for a roof appreciate that footy's an outdoor sport, or if not, appreciate that:

- a roof's never going to be built over Adelaide Oval; and
- cricket's never going to move away from Adelaide Oval to a multi-purpose stadium with a roof; and
- without SACA and the AFL in bed together, we get nothing but the western grandstand at Adelaide Oval and, possibly, the revival of those quarter-arsed plans to bring AAMI Stadium back from the brink.

We can't pull cash from our arses kids!

when i'm talking about a roof i'm not talking about it over the pitch, i want the stands covered with a roof that doesn't have big gaps in it and comes in to or almost to the edge of the pitch so that the patrons are for the most part sheltered.
The idea of covering the whole oval with a roof is rediculous.

Fair enough. Adelaide Oval's never going to be even half a bowl though and there aren't any other realistic options to deliver a stadium of this magnitude at this stage.

Are you happy with the 77% cover stat posted above? I'm no architect or engineer, but my guess is that you couldn't do too much better than that without a domed roof because of sight lines etc

[Briggzy_03]

Here's a link to the video:

<span><a class="smarterwiki-linkify" href="ht ... y_Scnoq1Zz">http://player.video.news.com.au/adelaid ... y_Scnoq1Zz[/url]</a></span>

HD version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zuf8J7u ... r_embedded

I'm happy with the design, it hasn't really changed much except for the Eastern stand's roof and memorial drive as the 'crows shed'. 72% under cover is good enough, $2-300 million to cover another 28% for 3 - 4 games where it rains isn't worth it IMO. I'd prefer the money be spent elsewhere along the precinct or in other projects.

Build it.

[adam73837]

Out of curiosity, when they say that the oval has a capacity of 50 000, this only covers the number of seats doesn't it? I hope so.

As for the rest of the stadium I can see where ricecrackers is coming from:

what a terrible design

Let's face it, it's not the best design of all the new stadiums being proposed. One argument that people used to use was that Adelaide Oval would lose its heritage. Now... well... what heritage? Firstly, if you want impressive heritage that people will travel from afar to see, think Europe, Asia or the Middle East. Secondly, whatever 'heritage' Adelaide Oval had is long gone. The Southern stand left in the 80s and the Western stand has also recently left us. All that's left is the scoreboard and quite frankly, I think it would be a nice addition to the University Playing field situated a little to the east of AO. Adelaide Oval will once again become Adelaide's central sporting venue and like several people have said here, if you're going to do it, do it properly. And I feel no shame in stating that it is a terrible design that doesn't skirt anywhere close to the quality of stadiums being built around the world.
Sure, some people may say that one of the worst things to happen to Adelaide Oval would be for it to become a concrete bowl like the Gabba or the MCG. Fair enough, but take a look at Perth Stadium, Allianz Arena or Soccer City Stadium in Johannesburg:

I stand to be corrected, but according to Wikipedia, this will in fact go ahead if Australia wins the rights to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

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Besides, at the rate we're going, the cost of this thing is going to keep going up. Remember that this $550m pricetag doesn't include the footbridge or this underground carpark of theirs (waste of time is this; PT is the way to go for something like AO).

BTW, what is it with Andrew Demetriou's persistence that this is the only option for SA?

[crawf]

The interior of the grandstands look pretty impressive and I like the plaza.

Not to fussed about the pedestrian bridge or Memorial Drive, I can see a new tennis arena being a big ticket item in a future state budget.

To sum it all up, this design is better but the project still needs alot of work.

Here's a link to the video:

http://player.video.news.com.au/adelaid ... y_Scnoq1Zz


Those more technologically adept than me are encouraged to actually post it in.

Gotta say, it's pretty impressive.

Wonder if those calling for a roof appreciate that footy's an outdoor sport, or if not, appreciate that:

- a roof's never going to be built over Adelaide Oval; and
- cricket's never going to move away from Adelaide Oval to a multi-purpose stadium with a roof; and
- without SACA and the AFL in bed together, we get nothing but the western grandstand at Adelaide Oval and, possibly, the revival of those quarter-arsed plans to bring AAMI Stadium back from the brink.

We can't pull cash from our arses kids!

when i'm talking about a roof i'm not talking about it over the pitch, i want the stands covered with a roof that doesn't have big gaps in it and comes in to or almost to the edge of the pitch so that the patrons are for the most part sheltered.
The idea of covering the whole oval with a roof is rediculous.

There is not going to be gaps along the roof.

77% covering for patrons is a good result, much better compared to AAMI Stadium.

[Alyx]

BTW, what is it with Andrew Demetriou's persistence that this is the only option for SA?

Andrew Demetriou speaking yesterday:

"We're obviously aware of a proposal to build a stadium with a roof in Adelaide but that requires between $200 million-$300 million from football."

[crawf]

adam73837, I believe that is this the old proposal for Perth.

New plan is to redevelop Subiaco Oval if Australia is successful.

[ghs]

The budget for this project is what $530 million and $85 million will be used to bail out the SACA.

That leaves $450 million which is not much so the design was always going to be pretty basic.

Apparently there's going to be a glass wall on the northern side of the oval to block out the northerly
wind. This was reported in the advertiser earlier in the week.

[Hooligan]

The budget for this project is what $530 million and $85 million will be used to bail out the SACA.

That leaves $450 million which is not much so the design was always going to be pretty basic.

Apparently there's going to be a glass wall on the northern side of the oval to block out the northerly
wind. This was reported in the advertiser earlier in the week.

Rucci said about the glass wall in his roast on Thursday. He's always sarcatic in that coloumn.

I'm sure he's sitting at home laughing at everyone who believes that bit of baloney

[Pistol]

Apparently there's going to be a glass wall on the northern side of the oval to block out the northerly
wind. This was reported in the advertiser earlier in the week.

Why?

I like it. I think it seems the best compromise as we were never going to get a new stadium. More importantly we do not need a roof - get a grip people!

[Hooligan]

Apparently there's going to be a glass wall on the northern side of the oval to block out the northerly
wind. This was reported in the advertiser earlier in the week.

Why?

I like it. I think it seems the best compromise as we were never going to get a new stadium. More importantly we do not need a roof - get a grip people!

BUT BUT BUT BUT MELBOURNE HAS ONE!!!!!!!11111!!