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Re: #PRO: Port Adelaide Tram | #COM: Entertainment Centre Tr

#1516 Post by contractor » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:00 pm

AtD wrote:200mm? The humanity.
I take it that you don't see things from a design perspective AtD. More a sarcastic perspective :toilet:

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#1517 Post by contractor » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:07 pm

jk1237 wrote:
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contractor wrote:
1. It's elevated!!! WHY OH WHY hasn't it been kept at road level.
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I never noticed this on the renders/pics. How high is it?

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maybe an inch and a bit, its simply for separation of the car lanes and tramline, to signify to drivers not to drive on the tracks. Nothing to get upset over contractor, I think its a good idea. Seen how people drive lately? Even King William Street in places the tracks in the concrete are deliberately a cm or 2 above the bitumen, to signify that it is tram only. Same logic to those yellow humps to divide the road between oncoming traffic and the bump of reflectors to keep you in your lane, when talking on your mobile when driving :wink: . As for the medium strip, I think best to ring 5AA or write a letter to editor over that one, caus I really dont know what the issue there is
From a cost perspective, the elevated tracks are a cheaper option :secret: but not as visually pleasing in my opinion.

I will call 5AA immediately Monday morning. The letter is already in the post.

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#1518 Post by Nort » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:08 am

contractor wrote:
AtD wrote:200mm? The humanity.
I take it that you don't see things from a design perspective AtD. More a sarcastic perspective :toilet:
From a design perspective I actually like raised tram lines if the track is not intended to be driven upon.

In Adelaide we have tram lanes that can be driven on (south of Victoria Square) and tram lines that cannot be driven on (north of Victoria square). Having tram only lanes raised makes it very clear to drivers unfamiliar with the Adelaide tram network where they can and cannot drive.

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#1519 Post by drsmith » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:55 am

Motorists should understand the difference between a dashed lane marking and a solid lane marking.

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#1520 Post by The Scooter Guy » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:56 am

Anyone checked out the new line on Nearmap?
I don't use Nearmap everyday because it consumes bandwith...
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#1521 Post by rev » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:55 pm

NearMap's latest update is 14th of June.

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#1522 Post by Nathan » Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:58 pm

drsmith wrote:Motorists should understand the difference between a dashed lane marking and a solid lane marking.
Motorists can't even understand a solid line when there's a big BUS LANE painted along side it (see Botanic Rd). More drastic measures are needed to drill the message in.

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#1523 Post by drsmith » Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:08 pm

While not as drastic as a raised median for the tram, I would have thought leather legs issuing an infringement or two would have been sufficient to get the message across.

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#1524 Post by Archer » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:49 pm

drsmith wrote:While not as drastic as a raised median for the tram, I would have thought leather legs issuing an infringement or two would have been sufficient to get the message across.
Council's and governments make how much a year on infringement notices? Some how I don't think "The message" is getting across.

Personally I have no issues with the tram line being raised, I think it's a good safety measure and I have no problem with it aesthetically. The Tram stops on the other hand....

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#1525 Post by Waewick » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:48 am

I think need to do something with the tram stops, if just to stop passengers leaping out in front of traffic once they have gotten off the train.

I'm thinking a fence between the rail and road at every stop and potentially pedestrian walks at either end, it seems beyond the adelaide commuters intelligence that running out in front of cars is a quick way to die, I gather they will just blame the government if they only get injured :?

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#1526 Post by AtD » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:07 am

capitalist wrote:I think need to do something with the tram stops, if just to stop passengers leaping out in front of traffic once they have gotten off the train.

I'm thinking a fence between the rail and road at every stop and potentially pedestrian walks at either end, it seems beyond the adelaide commuters intelligence that running out in front of cars is a quick way to die, I gather they will just blame the government if they only get injured :?
Instead of mindlessly dashing across the road, they will mindlessly dash across the road against a red signal. There is only so much cotton wool you can wrap around people.

Calling it an Adelaide problem is just weak.

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#1527 Post by Waewick » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:56 am

I wasn't suggesting it is only an Adelaide problem..mearly pointing out it is occuring in Adelaide :)

But your right, there is only so much you can do for some people.

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#1528 Post by jase111 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:48 pm

ah but how does the tram get to the outer harbour line.
another leval crossing?

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#1529 Post by monotonehell » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:43 pm

jase111 wrote:ah but how does the tram get to the outer harbour line.
another leval crossing?
Nobody knows. If you read the rest of this thread then there's been some speculation, but until the Govt makes a decision it's all academic.
Exit on the right in the direction of travel.

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Re: #PRO: Port Adelaide Tram | #COM: Entertainment Centre Tr

#1530 Post by Vee » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:48 pm

Archer wrote: Personally I have no issues with the tram line being raised, I think it's a good safety measure and I have no problem with it aesthetically. The Tram stops on the other hand....
Same opinion and reasoning re (slightly) raised tramlines and I like the landscaping.

The tram stops need urgent action now!
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