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#766 Post by Kasey771 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:29 pm

skyliner wrote:It will be classic IMO. The bricks do link with the original walls - much better than bland cement.

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thx for the pics Xaragmata, I see construction has started on the lower bowl (close to the boundary fence.)
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#767 Post by Kasey771 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:51 pm

ricecrackers wrote:
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the Rose Bowl was originally built in a horseshoe shape too, as seen in this photo from wikipedia.
Going by the photo above, the Rose Bowl seems to have earthworks supporting the seating. The exit ways you can see must lead to a tunnel system.
that seemed to be the preferred method for large stadium designs up until the 1970's. even our own football park was basically a hole in the ground when it opened in 1974.
What do you mean WAS "a Hole in the ground"??-> what has changed since 1974?
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#768 Post by spiller » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:58 pm

Hey, they've added blue seats and a red sign that illuminates! :shock:

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#769 Post by spiller » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:02 pm

skyliner wrote:It will be classic IMO. The bricks do link with the original walls - much better than bland cement.

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I see your point, but brick veneer always looks a bit cheap and tacky? Plus I kinda enjoyed the contrast between concrete and brick, kinda like new vs old which is what I thought this stand was all about. I guess I should wait til it's finished before passing judgement :P. Some steel curtain walls would look hot with a pattern of relevance etched into it!

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#770 Post by Kasey771 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:31 pm

spiller wrote:Hey, they've added blue seats and a red sign that illuminates! :shock:
yeah "P*rt" coloured seats, no real improvement there IMHO :wallbash:
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#771 Post by Kasey771 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:31 pm

spiller wrote:Hey, they've added blue seats and a red sign that illuminates! :shock:
yeah "P*rt" coloured seats, no real improvement there IMHO :wallbash:

sign, yes showing other states we do indeed have 'lectricity :hilarious:
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#772 Post by Tyler_Durden » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:48 pm

ozisnowman wrote:I rest my case
You do? You haven't offered one decent, constructive comment yet and you're finished already?
its obvious that you guys are cricket fans and love to have a barbecue and a beer under the fig
trees and look for devine intervention from st paul by looking at the cathedral when things are going bad.
Nope, I hate cricket.
But for AFL and Soccer having a U shaped toilet bowl of a stadium with gaps in between will cause wind tunnel
effects that will be the thorn in all football players sides.
You're clutching at straws there. There is no evidence that this will be the case. Bowl stadiums are often the worst when it comes to swirling winds. Ever been to the MCG?
Current design is definitely not World Class and definitely not FIFA compliant...
In what way isn't it FIFA compliant? Looks easily compliant to me. EASILY.
As for aesthetics if you are watching an AFL match or a Football Match i doubt you will care or have too much
time to look at the lillies growing on the northern hill.
You seem to be saying no one should care whether it looks good, so why then do you care what it looks like? It makes no sense.

You contradict yourself, you haven't offered a coherent argument against it and all you seem to be able to do is throw random, pointless, negative comments. In summary you come across as a whinger with absolutley nothing constructive to offer. Prove me wrong and come up with something worth debating.

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#773 Post by Waewick » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:31 pm

it is FIFA compliant

the design has taken into account the WC to suggest otherwise is just plain insane.

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#774 Post by ricecrackers » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:49 pm

Kasey771 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
stumpjumper wrote:
Going by the photo above, the Rose Bowl seems to have earthworks supporting the seating. The exit ways you can see must lead to a tunnel system.
that seemed to be the preferred method for large stadium designs up until the 1970's. even our own football park was basically a hole in the ground when it opened in 1974.
What do you mean WAS "a Hole in the ground"??-> what has changed since 1974?
the added a roof, some seating and a new stand
its a little more than a hole in the ground now
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#775 Post by Kasey771 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:43 pm

Back on topic, article in today's Sunday Mail says that the 14,000 individual seats will be a mixture of Light green and burgundy.. I'm having difficulty imagining a tasteful mixture of these 2 colours, but I will at least wait to see what eventuates before digging out my "I Live in Adelaide therefore I must complain" hat :roll:
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#776 Post by ricecrackers » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:58 pm

Kasey771 wrote:Back on topic, article in today's Sunday Mail says that the 14,000 individual seats will be a mixture of Light green and burgundy.. I'm having difficulty imagining a tasteful mixture of these 2 colours, but I will at least wait to see what eventuates before digging out my "I Live in Adelaide therefore I must complain" hat :roll:
i thought the same.
burgundy FFS :?
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#777 Post by cruel_world00 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:09 pm

ozisnowman wrote:But for AFL and Soccer having a U shaped toilet bowl of a stadium with gaps in between will cause wind tunnel
effects that will be the thorn in all football players sides.

O hai ozisnowman....

http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news-and- ... e-stadium/

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#778 Post by Waewick » Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:13 pm

I love the "could" look like part

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#779 Post by rev » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:53 pm

Here's something I think hasn't been posted yet, it just came out yesterday or the day before on the Port Adelaide site.

Adelaide Oval SMA brochure
http://portadelaidefc.com.au/Portals/0/ ... ep2010.pdf

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http://portadelaidefc.com.au/Portals/0/ ... mation.pdf

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#780 Post by Pants » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:23 pm

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SOUTH Australia's $100 million project to revitalise its jewel of sport is on target to be ready by late October and plans have been put in motion for Adelaide Oval to be the custodian of the Sheffield Shield.

After a tour of the building site, the Sunday Mail can reveal the most detailed plans yet of the redeveloped Adelaide Oval.

It is understood the cost will be higher than the $85 million handed to the South Australian Cricket Association by the State Government, but at a level SACA feels is manageable.

The new western grandstand has four bars, a dining room with views of the oval and out the back to the parklands, a terrace bar which overlooks the village green behind the stand and state-of-the-art facilities for players and SACA members.

It is the same stand that under the Stadium Management Authority - a joint venture between SACA and the South Australian National Football League - will provide a substantial portion of the seats when AFL football moves there. After being allowed exclusive access to the building site by SACA president Ian McLachlan and builder Built Environs, the Sunday Mail can report:


THE old Chappell Bar has been replaced by two bars facing the village green, with adjoining kiosks. There are two other feature bars in the stand.

CAPACITY of the stand is 14,000 seats, but another 600-1000 members can be catered for.

SACA has built a Sheffield Shield room where it wants to host the original Sheffield Shield. Discussions are being held as to whether the original should travel with the winning side or be preserved in South Australia. The Shield has been in Melbourne for the past two years but discussions are being held over whether a replica should be awarded to each year's winner.

TALKS are under way over what to call the new stand, but the Giffen Pavilion is firming as a likely option. The original brickwork from the George Giffen Stand has been retained.

THE cost of preserving the brickwork from the George Giffen stand, which was propped up during the construction of the western grandstand, will be between $15 million and $17 million. The new grandstand is built around the old arches.

SEATS will be light green and burgundy, and the roof will allow light to come through. It is of a similar construction to AAMI Park in Melbourne.

THE ground has been re-shaped to become a proper oval. One wing has been expanded and the two dead pockets have been cut off.

THE ivy growing on the back of the western grandstand has been kept alive at Virginia, at the behest of former groundsman Les Burdett, and will be returned over summer.

AFTER initial membership offers were sent out, the predicted ratio of members to seats is less than at the MCG, giving members a greater chance to get a seat at major events.

THE gradient of the stand is less than that of the MCG's Southern Stand or the stands at Homebush in Sydney, but allows its patrons to be closer to the action than anywhere else on the ground.

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