News & Discussion: Other Metropolitan Developments

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[Wayno]

URBAN sprawl is costing taxpayers up to $85,000 a household for service provision.

As the debate rages over development in Mt Barker and other outlying areas, infrastructure company Parsons Brinckerhoff says providing power, water, sewerage, schools, hospitals and local government services for fringe developments costs the various levels of government $85 million for every 1000 new homes.

The research comes as the Urban Development Institute of Australia says developing in established areas costs as much as three times more than in greenfield areas.

Report author Darren Bilsborough, who is PB's head of sustainability, said developers needed incentives to build in the city's established footprint.

"You can't blame developers for wanting to develop in the fringe because everything in the system is geared towards assisting and facilitating development on the fringe - it is the old business-as-usual model" he said.

"When a developer wants to do an in-fill development, there are so many barriers and hurdles in their path to stop them from doing that easily."

Urban Development Institute of Australia executive director Terry Walsh said developers should not have to fund infrastructure in new development areas.

But he said developers often funded infrastructure within a development, such as internal roads and parks and gardens.

"The cost of infrastructure needs to be borne by the community at large," he said. "If the cost is borne by the developer that will be passed on to the first home buyer."

State Government Integrated Design Commissioner Tim Horton said developers focused on better outcomes should be offered incentives to develop in the city. "There needs to be a community dividend," he said.

For Mt Barker, the Government has announced a $550 million package of infrastructure to accompany the development of between 6500 and 10,000 new homes.

It is estimated that after contributions from developers and landowners, taxpayers will be left with a bill of about $60,000 a household.

[stumpjumper]

It's not a bad development, but the advertising is over the top:

'Adelaide's new eastern suburb' - Lightsview is not a suburb, it is a development in the suburb of Northgate. The developers have no intention of applying for a separate name and 'Northgate' will be the name of the suburb on your contract.

'close (to the city) is an understatement' - at 8kms from the GPO, it's no closer than any other location 8kms away.

[AG]

Taking a look on Nearmap really shows how narrow some of the streets in and around the new development are... and to think that there's going to be a new bus route weaved straight through the new subdivision on Jan 16 (route 204).

[Voice of the People]

For those that are interested, Lightsview are reviewing their community plan with a session to be held at the Lightsview Sales Office between Noon and 4pm on Sunday January 16th.

[monotonehell]

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Oh dear.... you couldn't pick a better user name?

"Voice of one person" might be more accurate?

Welcome to the forums.

[rev]

Taking a look on Nearmap really shows how narrow some of the streets in and around the new development are... and to think that there's going to be a new bus route weaved straight through the new subdivision on Jan 16 (route 204).

They seem to be around a similar width to the existing Northgate development?
Some of the roads in the "Westwood" development aren't much wider, and have buses running through.

[Voice of the People]

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Oh dear.... you couldn't pick a better user name?

"Voice of one person" might be more accurate?

Welcome to the forums.

As someone intricately involved in the planning policy development of our fair city but requiring anonymity due to my role (and the risk of dismissal should I be outed) and my intent to comment on behalf of the people who are always forgotten about in planning and development - everyone not involved in the industry, I chose the name quite deliberately.

Anyway, if this is the best response I'm gonna get, it probably says a lot about the malaise in the South Australian planning and development industry, and why it took me over a year until I decided to join the forums.

[monotonehell]

As someone intricately involved in the planning policy development of our fair city but requiring anonymity due to my role (and the risk of dismissal should I be outed) and my intent to comment on behalf of the people who are always forgotten about in planning and development - everyone not involved in the industry, I chose the name quite deliberately.

Anyway, if this is the best response I'm gonna get, it probably says a lot about the malaise in the South Australian planning and development industry, and why it took me over a year until I decided to join the forums.

I said that mostly tongue in cheek, but you have to admit that it does appear a bit pretentious claiming to be the 'voice of the people' when you are an individual like everyone else here, not an elected representative or similar.

I value YOUR opinion, however, and you don't need my permission to post it.

So as I said before (completely sincerely) "welcome to the forum".

[Waewick]

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Oh dear.... you couldn't pick a better user name?

"Voice of one person" might be more accurate?

Welcome to the forums.

As someone intricately involved in the planning policy development of our fair city but requiring anonymity due to my role (and the risk of dismissal should I be outed) and my intent to comment on behalf of the people who are always forgotten about in planning and development - everyone not involved in the industry, I chose the name quite deliberately.

Anyway, if this is the best response I'm gonna get, it probably says a lot about the malaise in the South Australian planning and development industry, and why it took me over a year until I decided to join the forums.

fight the man!

welcome to the forum!

[Vee]

Anyway, if this is the best response I'm gonna get, it probably says a lot about the malaise in the South Australian planning and development industry, and why it took me over a year until I decided to join the forums.

Welcome to the forum, 'Voice of the People.' I have found this forum to be welcoming of new members so great to see another new member.

I appreciate the informative comments, wealth of knowledge, information and insights that S-A offers and the ability to post, respond, browse, debate etc. via this valuable forum. This includes the diversity of views, multitude of topics, up to date and relevant information and the timely, interesting photos and links posted by members of this forum.

[stumpjumper]

I'll add my welcome to this august forum, 'Voice of the People.' I'd also like it known that I'm considering changing my nickname to 'Revealer of Universal Truths.'

Taking a look on Nearmap really shows how narrow some of the streets in and around the new development are.

Such widths are generally achieved through the miracle of 'roll over kerbing' and a prohibition of front fences.

[Will]

2 new small projects for Glenelg.

From the Guardian Messenger:

Taplin's new look for prominent Glenelg corner

Local News19 Jan 11 @ 06:14am by Alice Monfries



BIG PLANS: Developer Andrew Taplin says the development will ``add to the streetscape''.


A NEW three-storey development with shops, cafes and apartments will soon transform one of the Bay’s most prominent corners.

The Taplin Group has earmarked the corner of Colley Tce and Jetty Rd, Glenelg, for a three storey 1157 sqm building, with shops on the ground floor and up to 20 apartments on the two floors above.

The development was approved by Holdfast Bay Council’s development assessment panel last month.

It will require the demolition of Gringo’s Mexican Cantina, Oasis Deli, Royal Copenhagen Ice Cream Cone Co. and Sunglass Hut, among other retailers.

Developer Andrew Taplin said the building, which might be completed within two years, would become ``the diamond in the crown of Jetty Rd’‘.

``It’s a very exciting development on such a key site,’’ he told the Guardian Messenger last week.

``To contribute to Jetty Rd is a major thing, but to be in that strategic location, right on Moseley Square ... I think it will really add to the streetscape and is the sort of thing we need to have happen down here.’‘

The building will include more than 800 sqm of retail floor space, with room for 11 shops or eateries, and 18-20 apartments on the floors above.

Mr Taplin said the corner’s present retailers would be given priority in the new building.

``They are in a situation where they’ll have the first option to come back into the tenancy and we’ll use this opportunity to make sure everyone upgrades,’’ he said.

Oasis Deli owner Jim Diamantis said the tenants had appreciated Mr Taplin taking their futures into account.

``We’ve had good communication with Andrew and he’s always left his door open,’’ he said.

``Having a newer building is going to be a plus but at the moment it’s all quite fresh so we’re looking forward to getting a better idea of the plans.’‘

Mr Taplin expected construction would begin in about 12 months

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Luxury plans for Glenelg

Local News19 Jan 11 @ 05:43am by Alice Monfries



NEW STANDARD: An artist's impression of how the apartment block would look on South Esplanade.


FOUR luxury beachfront apartments will be built between two State Heritage listed properties on South Esplanade, Glenelg.

Plans for the four-storey building, lodged by the Taplin Group, were approved by Holdfast Bay Council’s Development Assessment Panel (DAP) on Wednesday, December 1.

Glenelg developer Andrew Taplin said the apartments would “set a new standard” in Glenelg.

“They are very luxury apartments, the standard that you would get in New South Wales and the eastern states,” he said.

“We’re building three four-bedroom apartments, each on its own level, and a one-bedroom apartment on the ground floor.”

Mr Taplin said the site, 15 South Esplanade, had a “very chequered history”.

In March 2005, Holdfast Bay’s DAP refused an application by prominent Adelaide builder Gordon Pickard for a six-level apartment block at the site.

Residents fought the plan because the site is between two state heritage-listed homes, known as Stormont and Albert Hall. More than 114 objectors made submissions to the council.

Mr Pickard appealed to the Environment, Resources and Development Court but the council’s decision was upheld.

Mr Taplin said construction of the four-storey building would begin in June or July.

[Will]

Another small, yet interesting development for Adelaide's south-west suburbs.

Lumina Apartments

Spanning four levels, using innovative materials in its build and displaying a striking design style, Lumina Apartments in Adelaide's Somerton Park presents a picture of contemporary, visual harmony that you will be proud to call your home for your retirement. Choose from a selection of 1,2 or 3 bedroom apartments, ranging in size from 80 to 120 sqm, all with open-plan kitchens and dining rooms that fill your new home with natural light and space.

Each of the southern ground floor apartments feature courtyard gardens, while generously sized balconies offer fantastic outside living opportunities for those apartments on the upper levels of the development, all of which have direct lift access from the lower levels and car park. Your apartment will be your own private oasis of space, where comfort, tranquillity and security combine to let you live your retirement to the fullest. Each apartment has a neutral colour palette that can be changed or adapted with colour options to ensure your new apartment suits your individual style.

[AtD]

Three stories for the corner of Moseley Square is a huge under-utilisation of space. It's a pity the $10m rule doesn't apply to Holdfast Bay.

Being an apartment block, it's probably going to be strata title, so it'll be a bitch to demolish.