News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

[bulldog13]

Being smaller gives more options, not fewer. Train companies are extremely reluctant to accept oversize cargo, and they probably don't have the specialist wagons needed to carry the trains. Nor can they tow the trains because the Dandenong line's track is broad gauge only, but the Victorian broad gauge system has been isolated from the SA broad gauge system since the Melbourne to Adelaide track was standardized in the '90s.

The trains will come here by road.

They can put temporary broad guage and then standard gauge bogies under them and transport them by rail.

[Waewick]

not sure if this is the place to ask


but is there any reason why the Mitcham Stop on the Belair rail line wouldn't be upgraded to a park and ride facility?

it seems to have a crap load of un or underutilised space around it and I would imagine there would be a fair few people around the area.

the only down ful being the 30 minute time to get into town, but that could be fixed with an express serivce?

[skyliner]

Taken from the New Connections Spring 2010 edition



Believe this will be one of the new Seaford Stations

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The first pic shows a 4 coach/car train set. As such does it mean it is a fixed group of cars. (ie not separable). Bris has fixed 3 car sets.

SA - STATE ON THE MOVE

[Wayno]

is there any reason why the Mitcham Stop on the Belair rail line wouldn't be upgraded to a park and ride facility?

it seems to have a crap load of un or underutilised space around it and I would imagine there would be a fair few people around the area.

the only down ful being the 30 minute time to get into town, but that could be fixed with an express serivce?

I occasionally catch the Mitcham train. Every 2nd train or so is semi-express (2 stops before Adelaide CBD). Takes ~15mins only.

The car park next to the station is chocka-block every week day. No spare squares - Not a square to spare.

[Waewick]

what about all the unused land across the tracks and around the place

this is purely going off near map - there seems to be room to develop

it is sad to say, but I was looking for a spot to put a park'n'ride for a tram through parkside/Unley - alas all full

[muzzamo]

Dear Sir / Madam

I write to update you on the Hallett Cove Beach Station upgrade and provide information about what will be happening in coming months.

As you know, the State Government is committed to rebuilding the city’s rail network, including the electrification of more than 100 kms of rail and creating a sustainable, state-of-the-art transport system providing faster, cleaner, safer and more efficient services.

The upgrade of the Noarlunga line is integral in this plan and a complete rebuild of the line is planned, including improving drainage and installing new concrete sleepers and ballast and repairing rail.

The State Government has now finalised arrangements for major track upgrade work to commence on the Noarlunga line from early February 2011.

It is the first step toward electrification of the line which is expected to be completed in 2013.

To facilitate the safest and most efficient completion of the works, the Noarlunga line will be closed between Noarlunga Centre and Oaklands Interchange for approximately six months with substitute bus services to operate.

Further details of these services will be provided early in the New Year.

Meantime, the full closure of the line will allow the Hallett Cove Beach Station project team to continue work on the station rebuild which now involves the demolition of old platforms.

Once the new platforms have been built, installation of architecturally designed shelters, improved security, passenger information systems and other amenities will be completed.

The upgraded Hallett Cove Beach station will re-open when the upgraded line between Noarlunga and Brighton returns to service in mid 2011.

We will continue to minimise inconvenience and disruption wherever possible and thank you for your patience and understanding while these important infrastructure works are undertaken.

Please call the Project Enquiry Line on 1300 782 454 if you have any concerns or questions about these works.

Yours sincerely

Terry Stewart
Project Director

[Westside]

...the Noarlunga line will be closed between Noarlunga Centre and Oaklands Interchange for approximately six months...

...The upgraded Hallett Cove Beach station will re-open when the upgraded line between Noarlunga and Brighton returns to service in mid 2011...

So what's it going to be, Brighton or Oaklands?

[bay transit]

Oaklands Park station.

[fabricator]

What I don't understand is why not fast track the rebuilding of the Oaklands to Brighton section, after all part of it has been rebuilt already so it should only take a month or two. That gives access to the 3 track station at Brighton and its carpark. Plus if they need to they can bring equipment and machinery by rail without disrupting passenger trains.

[Isiskii]

Article from today's Advertiser relating to the upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network.

Electric trains on track for 2012
Bryan Littlely
From: The Advertiser
December 27, 2010 12:01am

THE first of Adelaide's 66 new electric trains are expected be on the tracks by 2012.

Bombardier Transportation Australia has won the contract to supply the new railcars, which will run on our overhauled and electrified rail network.

Work on the $400 million rail network electrification begins next year and is due for completion in 2015.

The Glengowrie Tram Depot extension and Noarlunga line upgrade will be completed in the New Year, and significant works continue on the upgrade of the Gawler line and much anticipated extension of the railway to Seaford.

The new trains - built by the company which delivered the troubled trams which replaced the historic Glenelg rattlers - will have a top speed of 110km/h with faster acceleration and deceleration and performance that leads to significant power savings.

They will feature an array of on-board technology including Smartcard ticketing capability and CCTV while also being accessible for the disabled. They also will be designed to run in Adelaide's extreme heat conditions and give customers air-conditioned comfort.

Transport Minister Patrick Conlon said final negotiations were under way with Bombardier Transportation Australia to provide the new electric railcars. He has said the worldwide search for the rolling stock will help SA deliver a state-of-the-art public transport system.

"Our electrified rail network, serviced by these fast, efficient, reliable and modern trains, will be the envy of cities around Australia and indeed the world," he said.

"These new electric trains will be quieter, cheaper to operate, require less maintenance and offer improved reliability over our existing diesel fleet."

The trains first will be tested on the new $291 million Seaford rail extension.

Details in the Darlington Transport Study show three train stations along the Tonsley line would be moved, and two new stations and a transport hub would be created under the plan to duplicate the line and extend it to Flinders Medical Centre and Flinders University

[ozisnowman]

Article from today's Advertiser relating to the upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network.

Electric trains on track for 2012
Bryan Littlely
From: The Advertiser
December 27, 2010 12:01am

THE first of Adelaide's 66 new electric trains are expected be on the tracks by 2012.

Bombardier Transportation Australia has won the contract to supply the new railcars, which will run on our overhauled and electrified rail network.

Work on the $400 million rail network electrification begins next year and is due for completion in 2015.

The Glengowrie Tram Depot extension and Noarlunga line upgrade will be completed in the New Year, and significant works continue on the upgrade of the Gawler line and much anticipated extension of the railway to Seaford.

The new trains - built by the company which delivered the troubled trams which replaced the historic Glenelg rattlers - will have a top speed of 110km/h with faster acceleration and deceleration and performance that leads to significant power savings.

They will feature an array of on-board technology including Smartcard ticketing capability and CCTV while also being accessible for the disabled. They also will be designed to run in Adelaide's extreme heat conditions and give customers air-conditioned comfort.

Transport Minister Patrick Conlon said final negotiations were under way with Bombardier Transportation Australia to provide the new electric railcars. He has said the worldwide search for the rolling stock will help SA deliver a state-of-the-art public transport system.

"Our electrified rail network, serviced by these fast, efficient, reliable and modern trains, will be the envy of cities around Australia and indeed the world," he said.

"These new electric trains will be quieter, cheaper to operate, require less maintenance and offer improved reliability over our existing diesel fleet."

The trains first will be tested on the new $291 million Seaford rail extension.

Details in the Darlington Transport Study show three train stations along the Tonsley line would be moved, and two new stations and a transport hub would be created under the plan to duplicate the line and extend it to Flinders Medical Centre and Flinders University

It looks like Transport Minister Patrick Conlon is trying to pull one over on the Adelaide Public by offering very little information on the specifications of the newly ordered trains from Bombardier/EDI.
We are constantly shown pictures of Perth/Queensland Type-B EMU's which in Perth and Queensland have a top speed of 130km/hr. But are constantly told that they will have a top speed of 110km/hr.
Look at Perth/Queensland Type-A EMU's they have a top speed of 110km/hr. Mr Conlon can you tell us why we are getting the old outdated trains/engines or even worse are these so called new trains
actually recycled Perth/Queensland trains dolled up to look new?

[craigie]

The new trains would be able to go much faster than 110km p/h, it's just that they will be limited to 110 with an over speed function like the current ones are limited to 90, get to about 95 and the emergency air dumps. The track is being done up to 130km p/h standard but the limit will be 110 because of because of level crossing timing, signal distance and because there are so many areas where predestrians cross, 130 is just to dangerous there would be fatalities everywhere. harbour line will probably stay at 90 because of crossing timing. For the current 3000 and 3100 units they just raise the over speed safety function to 110 as simple as that.

[crawf]

We are getting brand spanking new trains, not second-hand.

The speed limit of 110km/h is due to current restrictions of level crossings, signals etc. Craige in the other train thread raised a good point on this topic.

[dsriggs]

FIX IT PAT


or something

[ozisnowman]

Good point Crawford but my question is that if we are getting new trains similar to those in Queensland and Perth which
have a top speed of 130km/hr why state that our trains will have a top speed of 110km/hr doesnt it make sense to
actually specify the actual train specification as the train has a top speed of 130km/hr but will only be allowed to
travel to a top speed of 110km/hr.

Is this Labour's way of trying to make our track upgrades etc look better than they actually are?