News & Discussion: General CBD Development

[stumpjumper]

You guys are sounding like a heritage conservation lobby (except for the monorail).

Maybe a virtual museum by itself is a bit virtual, but just another physical museum is a bit of a yawn.

Perhaps something (not sure what) could be done that broke the mould of normal museums. Look at that new privately funded art gallery in Tasmania, for example.

Something new, exciting and different - words you don't usually associate with Adelaide.

[Wayno]

there was talk somewhere of housing 'Adelaide Museum' contents at various CBD locations, and creating an 'interactive walking trail' to bring it all together. So read about it, then see it.

[Maximus]

Nice article here: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6000403860

The only way is up for our growing city
Sheradyn Holderhead From: The Advertiser February 05, 2011 12:00AM

ADELAIDE is on the cusp of becoming a city with world-class development, industry figures say.

But they warn this unique opportunity for the future can fall over if all levels of government and the private sector fail to work together to create a shared vision.

The State Government's controversial decision to strip Adelaide City Council of approval powers for developments valued over $10 million in mid-2008 continues to create division between the two levels of government but a new "integrated" planning strategy, being worked on this year, is hoped to bring them together.

Last year alone there were 13 city developments over $10 million approved by the government's Development Assessment Commission, compared to four in 2009.

More than half of these buildings are over the height limit for their location.

Australian Institute of Architects SA president David Holland said while it was unlikely all the development would be built, having so many developments proved the city was set for a revamp.

"I think Adelaide is undergoing a generational shift and I think we're vibrant and young with good ideas and are moving forward," he said.

The architect behind three $10 million-plus city developments approved in the past two years, Paul Pruszinski, said the city's plan must be changed to fully embrace and encourage good design.

"The debate should not be centred on the height of specific buildings but whether a building is suitable for its location," he said.

Property Council of Australia SA executive director Nathan Paine said there was a strong sense the city's Development Plan does need to be reviewed. "We need to make sure development is not held back by a vocal minority," he said.

Urban Development and Planning Minister Paul Holloway said the physical changes to the city could be partially attributed to DAC now assessing city projects over $10 million.

"The physical impact is that the city skyline is now conforming to the intentions of the existing City Council Development Plan rather than being constrained by the anti-development tendencies of some of the individual council Development Assessment Panel members, who had sought to hijack the planning assessment process," he said.

Mr Holloway said changes would continue because the council was required to review its Development Plan by the end of the year to demonstrate how it would provide 15,040 additional homes and 50,000 new jobs.

Lord Mayor Stephen Yarwood said he hoped this review would be the "highest profile strategic planning review".

"We're keen to really set a vision for Adelaide that will put the city up there as a world-class city," he said.

Integrated Design Commissioner Tim Horton said his office was now working with the council, state and federal governments as well as the private sector to create a design strategy for the city that would create a further lift in development and life.

But he said if this failed "we would end up with a city that is indistinguishable from any other".

[Ben]

Hungry jacks is opening on Hindley again afer about 10 ?? years absence. I remember going there as a kid. This is the Hungry George site.

Type: Development Application Received
Application Number: DA/97/2011
Lodgement Date: 8/02/2011
Location: 74-78 Hindley Street, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Internal and external alterations to existing building.

Applicant Name


HUNGRY JACKS P/L

[Ben]

Type: Development Application Received
Application Number: DA/96/2011
Lodgement Date: 8/02/2011
Location: 11-13 Franklin Street, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Change of use from offices to licenced computer games room.

Applicant Name


PIMP PAD ADELAIDE PTY LTD

[Nathan]

licenced computer games room.

People still go to a venue for LAN gaming? Surely online gaming would have killed that off...

[AtD]

Hungry jacks is opening on Hindley again afer about 10 ?? years absence. I remember going there as a kid. This is the Hungry George site.

Good, one less empty shop for Hindley St.

[Mants]

licenced computer games room.

People still go to a venue for LAN gaming? Surely online gaming would have killed that off...

there are a few of them around still...cyberhive and arena spring to mind. not much of a gamer myself though, but i know people who go to these places.

[Omicron]

Hungry jacks is opening on Hindley again afer about 10 ?? years absence. I remember going there as a kid. This is the Hungry George site.

Type: Development Application Received
Application Number: DA/97/2011
Lodgement Date: 8/02/2011
Location: 74-78 Hindley Street, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Internal and external alterations to existing building.

Applicant Name


HUNGRY JACKS P/L

Hooray!

[iTouch]

Hungry jacks is opening on Hindley again afer about 10 ?? years absence. I remember going there as a kid. This is the Hungry George site.

Type: Development Application Received
Application Number: DA/97/2011
Lodgement Date: 8/02/2011
Location: 74-78 Hindley Street, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Internal and external alterations to existing building.

Applicant Name


HUNGRY JACKS P/L

Hooray!

I'm pretty stoked as well!!

[Isiskii]

Great! Another fast food outlet to cure the effects of post-alcoholic-consumption on Sunday mornings.

[mshagg]

Great! Another fast food outlet to cure the effects of post-alcoholic-consumption on Sunday mornings.

Lol, but so many niche options have moved in during HJ's absence!

Anyways, im a bit new to all the development talk... does anyone have any background reading as to the height limitations around the city and the rationale behind them?

[Isiskii]

Gist of it is, height limitations in the city are enforced in the shape of a pyramid. In the CBD core (Westpac Building thereabouts) they start at 103m (Even though Westpac is 132m) and taper downwards from there to about ~75m, 40m, 28m, etc... excepting the spine that is King William Street which is ~75 around Vic Sq, and ~40m down the City South end.

Roughly.

There's a complex set of diagrams floating about on the interwebs somewhere which explains it in better detail.

The ACC will be undertaking a Development Plan Review very shortly, now that the new City Council and Lord Mayor have been elected. We are expecting a very favourable and drastic change in the regulations of the development plan, particularly concerning height limitations. I believe that Lord Mayor Yarwood has expressed support for a ~70lvl building in the City.

[wilkiebarkid]

I believe that Lord Mayor Yarwood has expressed support for a ~70lvl building in the City.

WOW! What an erection that would be!

We probably could accommodate some 30-40 lvl buildings before going over the top with a 70 lvl job.

[AG]

WOW! What an erection that would be!

That's what she said!