News & Developments: Bowden TOD

[marquisite]

The train pictured is from Perth.


(from watoday.com.au)

[AG]

Looks like to me the train is from either Victoria or NSW?

That image is of a TOD in Perth, and so is the train.

[UrbanSG]

The announcement by the government over the weekend was completely overshadowed by the Minister scandal. Wouldn't expect any less of the media! A video is up on the LMC site showing the planned stages:

http://www.lmc.sa.gov.au/bowdenvillage/home/default.asp

[Wayno]

here's a couple of pics extracted from the LMC video.

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[[Shuz]]

Those screen shots tell us two things, concerning transport; that it appears like they plan to extend the tramline down East Street, and the rail corridor appears like it will be converted into a "green nature strip" between Park Terrace and East Street, which would indicate plans to go ahead with an early proposal to submerge the rail line underground, eliminating the Park Terrace level crossing, making the Bowden Station underground and resurface some point later down the track.

[Nathan]

Those screen shots tell us two things, concerning transport; that it appears like they plan to extend the tramline down East Street, and the rail corridor appears like it will be converted into a "green nature strip" between Park Terrace and East Street, which would indicate plans to go ahead with an early proposal to submerge the rail line underground, eliminating the Park Terrace level crossing, making the Bowden Station underground and resurface some point later down the track.

I thought that too, but there's no mention of undergrounding the rail line in the video (it does mention the tram line though). I dare say it's just a case of something not lining up right in the render (and a bad use of Photoshop's healing brush causing the line to look like it's heading underground before it leaves the parklands)

[fishinajar]

Massively exciting. Absolutely love the reuse of existing buildings for the market etc, great to see from an historical as well as environmental perspective. If done well should look great also.

The train will be there guys, it's just not shown in the render... accidentally? Maybe, probably not though, not everyone enjoys the look and feel of a nice quiet electric train line.

Burying the line would cost way to much money, though would be awesome. No poli or planner in their right mind would eliminate it and rely solely on a hybrid tram/train only model of servicing the line into the future.

[rev]

To me it actually looks like the train line has been ripped up, and is being replaced by the tram line.
You can see in the renders it turns into the TOD and continues along the path of train line.

[AtD]

To me it looks like a conceptual work for marketing, not designed to be taken too seriously.

[Will]

From the Messenger:

Start of Bowden Village

Local News4 May 11 @ 12:58pm by Michelle Etheridge



ON SITE: Wayne Gibbings from the Land Managementjl Corporation at the development.


REMEDIATION works for the first stage of the Bowden Urban Village are expected to be complete by July.

Land Management Corporation (LMC) chief executive Wayne Gibbings said a 25sq m petrol tank had been uncovered at the former Clipsal site at the northwestern corner of the development, which faces Park Tce.

Mr Gibbings said contractors would remove contaminated soil and replace it with clean fill before construction started on the first homes, between Fifth and Seventh streets.

The 16 ha development will incorporate the former Clipsal and Origin energy land, on Park Tce and Chief St.

The State Government will develop the site over the next 10-12 years, to create the state’s first transit oriented development (TOD), with shops, offices and 2200 homes.

Mr Gibbings said at least two “saw-tooth” industrial buildings would be retained, to be used for a market and artists’ studio.

“Gibson St will have a main street feel, if you think Norwood Parade or Jetty Rd, Glenelg” he said.

Mr Gibbings said many of the streets would feature tree-lined median strips and reedbeds, and the whole precinct would have a maximum speed limit of 25km/h, to “create a shared space for pedestrians, cyclists and cars”.

The first stage will include 211 homes, in three-storey terraces and 4-5 storey apartment buildings.

Residents are expected to begin moving in late in 2012 or early in 2013

[kenget]

From the Messenger:

Land Management Corporation (LMC) chief executive Wayne Gibbings said a 25sq m petrol tank had been uncovered at the former Clipsal site at the northwestern corner of the development, which faces Park Tce.

I am guessing this tank was located somewhere near the petrol bowser that was used to supply the company vehicles with fuel

[rhino]

the whole precinct would have a maximum speed limit of 25km/h

This is too slow, for a whole suburb, IMO. I think 40km/h works quite well in the back streets of Unley, I find it hard to justify a 25km/h limit.

Kudos for the rest of it, though.

My

[bm7500]

the whole precinct would have a maximum speed limit of 25km/h

This is too slow, for a whole suburb, IMO. I think 40km/h works quite well in the back streets of Unley, I find it hard to justify a 25km/h limit.

Kudos for the rest of it, though.

My

I agree, 40km/h is much more suitable. Leave 25km/h for school zones and road works.

[Wayno]

i believe 25kph is suitable for the shared spaces between buildings (notice how i did not say roads). Neither cars nor pedestrians nor cyclists have preferential right of way.

To me, 40kph indicates cars have right of way.

[Nort]

It depends how many access roads there are into Bowden Village. If there are just going to be one or two roads in then 25kph is too slow, however if there is lots of access from the neighboring major roads a low speed limit will do a good job of discouraging people driving through the shared areas wherever possible.