[CAN] 2-20 Flinders St | 100m | 27lvls | Hotel & Office

[Will]

The DAP comes up with the most mind-numbingly stupidest reasons and excuses to block/amend development proposals. Thank God for the DAC.

and yet, just a few days ago....

Unfortunately, I have my doubts in the DAC's capability to make the right decision. I am led to believe that the DAC have never rejected a proposal; they have rubber-stamped every proposal and amendment to date ever since its inception.

Apples and oranges.

So, the DAC aint that bad?

[crawf]

I really don't understand the ACC sometimes, this is a building with more architectural merit than most of the dull concrete and glass boxes that are now gracing our skyline, let alone the ACC's penchant for approving carparks.

I echo Shuz "thank god for the DAP". Sounds like a good sensational adelaide t-shirt slogan actually.

You mean the DAC

[Waewick]

still the T-shirts sound good.....

[Will]

At its meeting on August 25, the state government DAC is expected to grant planning APPROVAL to this development.

Furthermore to show how out of touch the ACC is, here are some comments from the Heritgae Branch of the DENR:

The Heritage Branch has assessed the proposed development with respect to its impact on the heritage significance of the following State Heritage places. They consider the heritage impact to be acceptable for the following reasons:

The proposed tower development is set well back and maintains an adequate setting and presence to Flinders Street for the Pilgrim Church and Multicultural SA building.

The tower brings the backdrop of tall buildings closer to the heritage places, but nevertheless maintains the integrity of the low-rise heritage precinct comprising the Town Hall, Medina Hotel, Methodist meeting hall, Pilgrim Church and Multicultural SA building (all State Heritage-listed).

The tower building responds to the heritage places with strong vertical articulation into three distinct sections, the two lower sections responding to the scale of the heritage buildings. The middle section is designed with an overlaid grid that relates to the scale of the horizontal and vertical breakdown of the Multicultural SA building facades and to the three-dimensional depth of its balconies and colonnade.

The functional integration of the Multicultural SA building into the Adina Hotel proposal supports its ongoing viable use.

The proposed adaptive re-use of the Multicultural SA building is reasonably compatible with its heritage values. Its highest significance relates to its period of use as a sanatorium, which is comparable to the proposed hotel use in its functional requirements. The exterior is of high integrity, but the interior has been altered in the past. The proposed demolition of the 1920s’ annexe does not impact on heritage values. The new tower is set back from the rear of the heritage building and linked by means of a negative junction that visually separates old and new.

The proposed Pilgrim Church redevelopment strengthens and supports the continuation of the heritage-listed church’s significant use by the church community. The demolition of the 1960s’ annexe does not impact on heritage values.

The design of the new church annexe better reveals and interprets the church itself. It is sympathetic architecturally to the materials, design and proportions of the church, and to the settings of both the church and the Methodist meeting hall.

Meanwhile the Urban Design Unit had this to say:

The Urban Design Unit assessed the proposal in relation to any impacts on the public realm such as scale, massing, external appearance and its relationship with and influence on, the adjacent public realm. The UDU support the proposal and consider that it is a positive demonstration of how opportunity can be wrested from serious constraint by inquisitive clients and a creative design team. Combining major heritage places with enhancement of the public realm while creating a sophisticated new mixed use building, requires levels of facilitation and collaboration rarely seen to these levels in the City.

[phenom]

As foreshadowed by Will and according to AdelaideNow this morning, this proposal has been formally granted approval by the DAC.

Interestingly enough, the story rehashes ACC's complaints and then suggests the tower might be a no go as 'no comment' on a start date was available from the developer.

I still don't know if it's intended to help or hinder when the Advertiser refers to buildings like this in sensationalist terms, like 'Adelaide's 4th tallest building'... we all know that really isn't likely to be anything monolithic but it does risk getting the hackles up of the 'make Adelaide look like Paris, well parts of it, anyway' crowd.

[Username]

Just to clarify, neither ACC nor Heritage had any concerns with the overall height of this development. It is the buildings to the North and East of the site that will have their views to Vic Sq blocked off if this development goes ahead that have kicked up the stink. Both those buildings are on and lower then 72m so there was no real logic to their appeal.

[Thanial]

Heres the article, can't wait for this one!
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/property/ ... 6124013575

27-storey tower to overshadow city church

Source: The Advertiser
A CONTROVERSIAL expansion of the Grand Medina Treasury hotel, set to become the fourth-tallest building in Adelaide, has been approved.

The 100m, 27-storey building will cost $80 million to construct and offer top-end hotel facilities and office space.

The approval comes despite warnings from heritage advocates the building would overshadow the adjacent Pilgrim Uniting Church.

Adelaide City Council wanted the tower's bulging upper portion to be scaled back.

The development was given the green light at a closed-door meeting of the state Development Assessment Commission last week. It requires demolition of an existing two-storey annex at the church's rear and construction of an elevated gallery link between a new annex and the proposed tower.

A Development Assessment Commission report found the proposal would affect the State Heritage-listed Pilgrim Church and Multicultural SA office on Flinders St. However, a Heritage Branch report ruled the tower "is reasonably compatible" with surrounding structures.

It remains unclear when development will begin. Developer Toga Group of Companies, which operates the Grand Medina hotel chain, did not respond to requests for comment.

[cruel_world00]

That article is all that is wrong with The Advertiser.

Sensationalist headline, negative leading paragraph and then it ends with a comment from the heritage people saying it will actually fit in with the surrounds.

[Paulns]

[Thanial]

that pictures already on page 3 that's why i didnt upload it with the article

[Paulns]

that pictures already on page 3 that's why i didnt upload it with the article

Ohh? Haha ok thanks for that!

[AtD]

It's on page 1 now.

[Thanial]

Ohh? Haha ok thanks for that!

Hahah sorry also, does anyone else think that the render above makes the building look a lot smaller than 100m?

[wilkiebarkid]

....also, does anyone else think that the render above makes the building look a lot smaller than 100m?

Considering that the Angas Securities building is only 55 metres, YES it does.

[Will]

....also, does anyone else think that the render above makes the building look a lot smaller than 100m?

Considering that the Angas Securities building is only 55 metres, YES it does.

It's actually 65m.