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Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)

#136 Post by Nathan » Sat May 21, 2011 5:24 pm

I went along to the community open day today to see if there's any new information. Most of what was on display are things we've already discussed here, but there was a couple of interesting things.
  • They are making plans to underground the train line, so that it passes underneath Park Tce, and then surfaces and joins with the tram line once it's past the development (so I'd say the other say of Chief St). This will allow for the pedestrian bridge over Park Tce.
  • There is a requirement for some "affordable housing", starting at roughly $330,000. (although I'd imagine that would be for apartments, not townhouses). Average price in the mid 400s, and some as high as mid 700s. All guesses though on their part at this stage though.
  • The blocks will actually be released to the private property sector, who will be doing the actual building and selling. Sites sold to private developers will be subject to encumbrances intended to achieve "the quality, design and sustainable outcomes". There will be a design review panel which will review any development proposal against the village guidelines before approval will be granted.
  • It looks like the gas works site on Chief St is being retained, and will eventually be turned into one of the area's many planned parks. Going by the map, it looked like the large wall along the Chief St side, plus a few other relics will be retained - so hopefully it ends up being something like the Paddington Reservoir Gardens in Sydney.
  • Gibson St seems to be the focus for the "main st" now, with the retail and cafe strip, instead of Chief St.
  • They're making a great effort to discourage car use, and eliminate the rat race route people currently use to avoid the Park Tce / Port Rd intersection.
There was also one woman there who was very concerned about the noise that all the people walking and cycling would generate, and whether there would be plenty of parking. :shock:
Maybe she should consider country living, but then she might find the wind too loud.

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Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)

#137 Post by AG » Sat May 21, 2011 5:46 pm

Nathan wrote: [*]They're making a great effort to discourage car use, and eliminate the rat race route people currently use to avoid the Park Tce / Port Rd intersection.[/list]
By rat race route, are you referring to Sixth Street and Gibson Street? What is being planned to discourage the traffic through the development other than lower speed limits - road closures, paving treatments, etc.?

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Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)

#138 Post by Nathan » Sat May 21, 2011 6:28 pm

That's it, as well as the people that zip down Sixth St to come out on East St & Chief St.
Wasn't clear on how they were discouraging it, but I'd say it's a combination of speed limits, road surface and other calming methods.

They did say that what little street parking there will be will be timed, to help encourage other transport options (walking, cycling for residents, and cycling/train/tram for visitors) and avoid residents buying cars and parking them out the front.

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#139 Post by AtD » Sun May 22, 2011 11:51 am

Nathan wrote:I went along to the community open day today to see if there's any new information. Most of what was on display are things we've already discussed here, but there was a couple of interesting things.
  • They are making plans to underground the train line, so that it passes underneath Park Tce, and then surfaces and joins with the tram line once it's past the development (so I'd say the other say of Chief St). This will allow for the pedestrian bridge over Park Tce.
  • There is a requirement for some "affordable housing", starting at roughly $330,000. (although I'd imagine that would be for apartments, not townhouses). Average price in the mid 400s, and some as high as mid 700s. All guesses though on their part at this stage though.
  • The blocks will actually be released to the private property sector, who will be doing the actual building and selling. Sites sold to private developers will be subject to encumbrances intended to achieve "the quality, design and sustainable outcomes". There will be a design review panel which will review any development proposal against the village guidelines before approval will be granted.
  • It looks like the gas works site on Chief St is being retained, and will eventually be turned into one of the area's many planned parks. Going by the map, it looked like the large wall along the Chief St side, plus a few other relics will be retained - so hopefully it ends up being something like the Paddington Reservoir Gardens in Sydney.
  • Gibson St seems to be the focus for the "main st" now, with the retail and cafe strip, instead of Chief St.
  • They're making a great effort to discourage car use, and eliminate the rat race route people currently use to avoid the Park Tce / Port Rd intersection.
There was also one woman there who was very concerned about the noise that all the people walking and cycling would generate, and whether there would be plenty of parking. :shock:
Maybe she should consider country living, but then she might find the wind too loud.
Thanks for that Nathan. I wonder who is funding the under-grounding of the line, and if Bowden Station will go.

The whole thing sounds very promising and hopefully will be the model of high density living in SA.

Public consultations always seem to attract hysterical people.

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#140 Post by mattblack » Sun May 22, 2011 12:11 pm

Gas works and several of the warehouse buildings are heritage listed and are specifically being retained to give the area a connection to its past.

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Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)

#141 Post by Nathan » Sun May 22, 2011 12:20 pm

AtD wrote:Thanks for that Nathan. I wonder who is funding the under-grounding of the line, and if Bowden Station will go.

The whole thing sounds very promising and hopefully will be the model of high density living in SA.

Public consultations always seem to attract hysterical people.
The Bowden Station would stay, however it would be more like a subway station. The station in the latest renders is the round blue glassed roof just back from the intersection of Gibson St and Second St. No idea who's funding it. I commented that undergrounding the line would be very expensive, to which they replied 'yes'.

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#142 Post by jk1237 » Sun May 22, 2011 5:08 pm

I guess it would be a cut n cover method like the sinking of Subiaco station in Perth. Couldn't get to the open day but have signed up for their email media releases. Will try and buy in here I hope.

Us cyclists make so much noise too, baha :roll: The Advertiser should run with an article about this

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#143 Post by crawf » Mon May 23, 2011 1:37 am

[quote="Nathan"]area's many planned parks. Going by the map, it looked like the large wall along the Chief St side, plus a few other relics will be retained - so hopefully it ends up being something like the Paddington Reservoir Gardens in Sydney.
[*]Gibson St seems to be the focus for the "main st" now, with the retail and cafe strip, instead of Chief St.
[*]They're making a great effort to discourage car use, and eliminate the rat race route people currently use to avoid the Park Tce / Port Rd intersection.[/list]

Glad to hear, I love that big bluestone wall

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Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)

#144 Post by AtD » Thu May 26, 2011 10:09 am

Bowden Railway tunnel:
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#145 Post by Civilian » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:18 pm

Thanks, AtD, was much of interest for me. Never thought things are like that.

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#147 Post by crawf » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:40 pm

There is now huge signage all over the buildings fronting Park Terrace, promoting Bowden Village.

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Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)

#148 Post by Dvious » Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:04 pm

This was posted just now in Adelaidenow for those interested. $1b price tag.

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#149 Post by crawf » Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:15 pm

$1bn development plan for site at Bowden
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business/ ... 6184064750
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THE $1 billion development at Bowden has been officially launched to industry representatives.

Under the project, the Land Management Corporation is remediating the former industrial site off Park Tce to standards set by the Environment Protection Authority and will support private sector developers by managing Bowden's roadworks, infrastructure and public spaces.

It will create more than 470 jobs during its construction and the Government says the completed development will support a further 1200 jobs.

Premier Jay Weatherill said the Bowden Urban Village development would bring to life the former industrial area and give Adelaide residents new housing and lifestyle choices.

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"We need to find new and better ways to accommodate the city's growing population through smarter design," he said.

Mr Weatherill has announced a six-member design review panel, which will guide the residential, retail and office development to ensure the highest standards. It will include the state's top architects, including the Government Architect Ben Hewett, and will be chaired by renowned Sydney architect Keith Cottier AM.

"The development will bring to life a former industrial precinct and create a vibrant community for its expected 3500 residents," Mr Weatherill said.

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Mr Cottier said he was honoured to chair the panel and similar panels had greatly improved the quality of apartment and mixed-use design both in Australia and internationally.

Other panel members include Theo Maras from the Maras Group, Francesco Bonato from tectvs Architects, Susan Phillips of Phillips/Pilkington Architects and Rachel Hurst, a senior lecturer at the University of SA with significant experience in residential development.
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