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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#631 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:04 am

monotonehell wrote:
jk1237 wrote:great idea about Leigh St

As for Gouger Street, the roadway needs major streetscaping. For a 1 laned, cafe and restaurant street, its ruled by cars. End the 45 degree carparks, narrow the roadway and increase the width of the footpaths. Gouger Street has way more potential than a car traffic funnel that it currently is
Both Rundle and Gouger suffer from having a major car park emptying out onto them. (The proposed modifications to Grenfell also have this problem to overcome). :(
Hear, hear. And add a tramline too, while you're at it!

As for Grenfell - the only carpark is actually one owned by the ACC - a lot easier to get rid of (just need some strong political will to do so) than waiting around for a private owner to do so. Then we could see some real action happen on Grenfell... trees please!
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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#632 Post by Ben » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:07 am

[Shuz] wrote:
monotonehell wrote:
jk1237 wrote:great idea about Leigh St

As for Gouger Street, the roadway needs major streetscaping. For a 1 laned, cafe and restaurant street, its ruled by cars. End the 45 degree carparks, narrow the roadway and increase the width of the footpaths. Gouger Street has way more potential than a car traffic funnel that it currently is
Both Rundle and Gouger suffer from having a major car park emptying out onto them. (The proposed modifications to Grenfell also have this problem to overcome). :(
Hear, hear. And add a tramline too, while you're at it!

As for Grenfell - the only carpark is actually one owned by the ACC - a lot easier to get rid of (just need some strong political will to do so) than waiting around for a private owner to do so. Then we could see some real action happen on Grenfell... trees please!
I don't think they do own it anymore. It's a "CARePark" now and part of the Rundle Place Redevelopment.

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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#633 Post by Vee » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:55 pm

jk1237 wrote:great idea about Leigh St

As for Gouger Street, the roadway needs major streetscaping. For a 1 laned, cafe and restaurant street, its ruled by cars. End the 45 degree carparks, narrow the roadway and increase the width of the footpaths. Gouger Street has way more potential than a car traffic funnel that it currently is
Yes, fully agree with these sentiments.

Gouger St. is a gem but it would benefit from a greater balance of traffic in favour of the pedestrian and away from motor vehicles. Yes, eliminate all angle parking & reduce on-street parking, widen the footpaths, add more frequent and designated pedestrian crossings (much prefer give way style) and improve the streetscape with more trees for shade and aesthetics.

The ChinaTown section is crying out for revitalization and additional landscaping. It adds to the cosmopolitan feel of the street but it's quite disappointing.

The speed limit needs to be seriously curtailed for this and other city alfresco dining strips with big pedestrian movements. The carpark entry/exit to Gouger St. is a major impediment to this as can be seen when the street is closed off for special events eg Classic Adelaide.

As for the tram extension (city loop), I still feel that the much wider Grote St. continuing through the Square to Wakefield St. is the better route.

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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#634 Post by Nathan » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:27 pm

Could they perhaps close the Gouger St carpark entrance altogether, or would that place too much pressure on the Grote St side?

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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#635 Post by monotonehell » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:49 pm

Nathan wrote:Could they perhaps close the Gouger St carpark entrance altogether, or would that place too much pressure on the Grote St side?
Gouger Street entrance goes to level two, while Grote Street goes to level one, so yes it would place too much pressure. The car park has 998 spaces spread over two levels and three buildings. It's a monster. On market days (esp Friday night and Sat morning) that place has all 5 exit lanes going full rate and barely keeps up.
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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#636 Post by crawf » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:18 pm

Scaffolding along the lower upper levels the Renaissance Tower have already been removed to show dark grey panels, kinda similar to the renders earlier this year. It looks okay, but I hope this is just the start for much bigger things for that ugly building. The ground floor has not been touched as of yet, but Toys R Us have commenced a large clearance sale.

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Scaffolding has also been removed for the 2-level retail store further down Rundle Mall (former Ed Harrys), nothing special but still better than the previous building.

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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#637 Post by Omicron » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:02 pm

Lord help us if it looks like that. What a disastrous addition. At least RenCen is cohesively dubious - now it's going to be disjointedly so.

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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#638 Post by AdelaideAlive » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:14 pm

on another note anyone know how long the pop corn van/shed has been in hindley street for? :shock: saw it for first time today, wow hamburger van now popcorn van, whats happening in adelaide how did the acc let all this progress get through unhindered :lol:

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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#639 Post by Will » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:19 pm

Omicron wrote:Lord help us if it looks like that. What a disastrous addition. At least RenCen is cohesively dubious - now it's going to be disjointedly so.
I agree, it looks like the renaissance centre has developed a skin cancer.

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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#640 Post by SRW » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:49 pm

crawf wrote:Noticed that 43 Rundle Mall (formerly Ed Harrys) has been nearly demolished

And this is what will be replacing it
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I noticed the scaffolding has come down on this yesterday. Still no indication who the tenant will be.
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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#641 Post by crawf » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:02 pm

According to an article from the City Messenger back in September, it will be a international retailer new to the state.. No word on who though

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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#642 Post by Ben » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:18 pm

crawf wrote:According to an article from the City Messenger back in September, it will be a international retailer new to the state.. No word on who though

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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#643 Post by Pants » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:20 pm

GAP is my guess.

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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#644 Post by Nathan » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:41 pm

Ben wrote:
crawf wrote:According to an article from the City Messenger back in September, it will be a international retailer new to the state.. No word on who though

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Apple would want complete control of the facade and fit out (especially the stairs), plus it's my understanding that they want a wider frontage.

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Re: New Retail in the CBD

#645 Post by [Shuz] » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:44 pm

RE: Toy's R Us - how vile. It look's like all of Hindley street's saturday night vomit has been collected and pasted onto the building.

RE: Former Ed Harry's is definetly not an Apple as they demand that they have a minimum 15m wide frontage, amongst many other specifics. I know of someone who works in the industry who tried to get them to establish a store at Burnside Vilage and am told that they are - quote - "Absolute f***ing arseholes to deal with".
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