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#721 Post by mickmat » Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:34 am

it would also be a good view from a landing aircraft over north adelaide

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#722 Post by Wayno » Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:09 pm

Going back 18 months or so i pitched use of this product (& similar) to the ACC (as a part of an org separate to sens-adel). Seems it went into the void. The technology is straightforward, low cost and low maintenance.
http://www.laservision.com.au/page.asp? ... er+Screens

Laservision is the world leader in the design and use of Water Screen shows and attractions. Up to 2000 sq metres (water) in area, screens of many different sizes can be created for both outdoor and indoor applications. A water screen provides a unique canvas for a variety of projected media. Motion pictures, digital video projection, laser graphics and large format slide projection may be used to produce vast and seemingly holographic imagery.

Water screens vary in size from 5m to 30m tall and 10m to 60m wide. Water screens may be installed in both man made and natural environments.

Laservision is the only company to have designed and installed a completely floating Water screen show, including projection barges, in tidal salt water.

Aqua Magic could be seen at Darling Harbour, Sydney's premier entertainment venue during the Olympics. Laservision has recently installed Water screens at a number of the world's leading attractions.
Here's another fun use of basic technology (Santa Monica GLOW festival) where the public gets into the act ==> http://vimeo.com/27634167. Watch from 1:00-1:30, 3:10-3:45

Both technologies could be merged. Just throwing it out there.
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#723 Post by Matt » Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:31 pm

Perhaps submit to the State Government instead - they're the ones with their foot on the pedal re: Riverbank?

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#724 Post by ml69 » Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:57 am

Wayno wrote:Going back 18 months or so i pitched use of this product (& similar) to the ACC (as a part of an org separate to sens-adel). Seems it went into the void. The technology is straightforward, low cost and low maintenance.
http://www.laservision.com.au/page.asp? ... er+Screens

Laservision is the world leader in the design and use of Water Screen shows and attractions. Up to 2000 sq metres (water) in area, screens of many different sizes can be created for both outdoor and indoor applications. A water screen provides a unique canvas for a variety of projected media. Motion pictures, digital video projection, laser graphics and large format slide projection may be used to produce vast and seemingly holographic imagery.

Water screens vary in size from 5m to 30m tall and 10m to 60m wide. Water screens may be installed in both man made and natural environments.

Laservision is the only company to have designed and installed a completely floating Water screen show, including projection barges, in tidal salt water.

Aqua Magic could be seen at Darling Harbour, Sydney's premier entertainment venue during the Olympics. Laservision has recently installed Water screens at a number of the world's leading attractions.
Here's another fun use of basic technology (Santa Monica GLOW festival) where the public gets into the act ==> http://vimeo.com/27634167. Watch from 1:00-1:30, 3:10-3:45

Both technologies could be merged. Just throwing it out there.
Just browsed through the Laservision website. Totally amazing stuff!! And it's an Australian company doing it too. A musical fountain combined with the water screen technology could be mind-blowing!

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#725 Post by mickmat » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:39 am

a musical water fountain and a mist screen is something adelaide should be known for because even though it has been done in the world, it hasn't been done in australia and would easily set as adelaide's major tourist attraction, there would be so many views such as a landing plane, or at a resturant on the riverbank or just on the grass or boardwalk along the torrens, It would provide good filtration and clean the torrens. could you use a mist screen for movies or would it be too blurry???

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#726 Post by monotonehell » Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:55 am

mickmat wrote:a musical water fountain and a mist screen is something adelaide should be known for because even though it has been done in the world, it hasn't been done in australia and would easily set as adelaide's major tourist attraction, there would be so many views such as a landing plane, or at a resturant on the riverbank or just on the grass or boardwalk along the torrens, It would provide good filtration and clean the torrens. could you use a mist screen for movies or would it be too blurry???
Too blurry to actually watch a movie. Nice for video effects amongst lit fountains.
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#727 Post by ml69 » Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:11 am

monotonehell wrote:
mickmat wrote:a musical water fountain and a mist screen is something adelaide should be known for because even though it has been done in the world, it hasn't been done in australia and would easily set as adelaide's major tourist attraction, there would be so many views such as a landing plane, or at a resturant on the riverbank or just on the grass or boardwalk along the torrens, It would provide good filtration and clean the torrens. could you use a mist screen for movies or would it be too blurry???
Too blurry to actually watch a movie. Nice for video effects amongst lit fountains.
Adelaide needs to be bold here (difficult thing for Adelaide I know).

Here is an opportunity to create a captivating attraction appealing to both locals and visitors alike, unique in Australia.

And drawing people to the riverbank. Isn't that what we're trying to achieve? I would bring my wife and young kids into the city to watch it, and probably have dinner at riverbank too. Whereas without any attraction I probably wouldn't bother visiting riverbank at night, too much trouble with young kids.

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#728 Post by Songsting » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:22 am

I absolutely agree with the sentiments here. I sure hope someone who actually has any say in this project also understands how making wonderful buildings and creating a beautiful environment is important, but it's things like the dancing fountains and light shows that will actualy attract the people and make the area come alive.

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#729 Post by cruel_world00 » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:34 am

ml69 wrote:
monotonehell wrote:
mickmat wrote:a musical water fountain and a mist screen is something adelaide should be known for because even though it has been done in the world, it hasn't been done in australia and would easily set as adelaide's major tourist attraction, there would be so many views such as a landing plane, or at a resturant on the riverbank or just on the grass or boardwalk along the torrens, It would provide good filtration and clean the torrens. could you use a mist screen for movies or would it be too blurry???
Too blurry to actually watch a movie. Nice for video effects amongst lit fountains.
Adelaide needs to be bold here (difficult thing for Adelaide I know).

Here is an opportunity to create a captivating attraction appealing to both locals and visitors alike, unique in Australia.

And drawing people to the riverbank. Isn't that what we're trying to achieve? I would bring my wife and young kids into the city to watch it, and probably have dinner at riverbank too. Whereas without any attraction I probably wouldn't bother visiting riverbank at night, too much trouble with young kids.


You're on a site that is about development and ideas for a better Adelaide etc, why the need for comments like the one I put in bold? It doesn't help when people passionate like us perpetuate this attitude.

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#730 Post by AdelaideAlive » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:08 am

having thought about this in detail, i now change my mind and think the casino should relocate down the railway yards giving it a huge area to really give us a true international standard casino and entertainment precint,leaving the railway station to maybe be a boutique hotel or other activities thus making people walk the entire legnth of the riverbank precinct to access the casino,therfore giving people a reason to walk down the riverfront and take in evrything else on offer, i unfort see a mjority of people on route back from adelaide oval only venturing as far as the casino and then home,unless there is major drawcards down the river i cant see a :!: majority of people heading that way. :!:

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#731 Post by mickmat » Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:31 am

that 30m dollars that they're begging for that underground car park at the oval should be put towards a musical fountain. we have the train station and a tram stop just outside the precinct. remove the wetland and put the fountain. there is a million carparks in the CBD that are a 5 min walk away from a tram or the oval. a carpark won't make nearly as much as a return flight and accomodation in a hotel. :?
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#732 Post by ml69 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:45 am

AdelaideAlive wrote:having thought about this in detail, i now change my mind and think the casino should relocate down the railway yards giving it a huge area to really give us a true international standard casino and entertainment precint,leaving the railway station to maybe be a boutique hotel or other activities thus making people walk the entire legnth of the riverbank precinct to access the casino,therfore giving people a reason to walk down the riverfront and take in evrything else on offer, i unfort see a mjority of people on route back from adelaide oval only venturing as far as the casino and then home,unless there is major drawcards down the river i cant see a :!: majority of people heading that way. :!:
I very much doubt the Casino will want to move from its current location at the southern end of the proposed Adel Oval footbridge. They've got the best location in the whole riverbank.

The casino upgrade is only small-medium sized in terms of global casinos and they just don't need a massive land area to expand. It would be different if they were trying to build a mega casino like recent ones in Singapore and Macau, but they're not.

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#733 Post by AdelaideAlive » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:36 am

another feature of the riverbank, which would be unique and inexpensive would be to have those projection lights on all the buidlings,as they did with nth terrace last year or year before for the fringe or something,lights alive think they called it, looked great and had people strolling the terrace all night looking at them on those heritage buildings :D

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#734 Post by [Shuz] » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:47 pm

AdelaideAlive wrote:another feature of the riverbank, which would be unique and inexpensive would be to have those projection lights on all the buidlings,as they did with nth terrace last year or year before for the fringe or something,lights alive think they called it, looked great and had people strolling the terrace all night looking at them on those heritage buildings :D
Northern Lights, that's what it was called.

I'm not happy with the way the extra $30m is being spent on 'carparking for the elite'. An extension of the tramline to Adelaide Oval could have been done for that same amount of money.
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#735 Post by Waewick » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:19 pm

I don't mean to be rude.....but football attendees are hardly considered "elite" I would also argue a good proportion of the car parking will be to the disabled.

I'm happy with the funding, if we are going to do this - lets do it properly.

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