News & Developments: Port Adelaide

[stumpjumper]

Thanks very much, Howie. I'll read this with interest in relation to the future of the inner port redevelopment. At the moment, I'd say that the decision to can the present development and 'start again with feeling' was fired from the hip with nothing behind it but concern for Labor's chances in holding Foley's old seat.

[PeFe]

portside-messenger.whereilive.com.au/news/story/port-clean-

Port clean-up bid rejected
Local News29 Nov 11 @ 09:38am by Tim Williams
Port Adelaide Enfield Mayor Gary Johanson
A COUNCIL bid for new laws to force Port property owners to clean up their derelict heritage buildings has been rejected by the State Government.

Instead, Local Government Minister Russell Wortley has suggested Port Adelaide Enfield offer rates rebates and boost heritage grants to entice owners to do the right thing.

In February, councillors backed Mayor Gary Johanson‘s plan to lobby the government for legislation specifically governing properties in the Port’s heritage precinct.

Port-Enfield sought the power to clean up properties and then charge the owners if they refused to do the work themselves.

The council argued existing laws did not go far enough because they focused on safety issues and fire hazards, not aesthetics.

Mr Wortley wrote to the council last month saying it had not provided evidence of any failed attempts to force clean-ups under existing legislation.

Regardless, he said the council should be more focused on the carrot than the stick.

“In seeking to address the issue of neglected buildings, while specific legislation can be important as a deterrent, it is considered that the more important feature of urban management is the range of incentives and assistance which councils develop to encourage and influence owners,” Mr Wortley wrote.

Port Adelaide branch of the National Trust chairwoman, Pat Netschitowsky, said every tour group she took through the Port commented on the poor state of the buildings.

She said the government’s decision was at odds with its recent commitment to the Port through its takeover of planning for the town centre and waterfront.

“I’m a bit shocked about it really. I thought that might get up,” she said.

Mr Johanson said he was disappointed with the government’s response, which failed to understand that some of the property owners were wealthy people, so financial incentives were not the answer.

He said he was working on a new plan that would see cleaning companies take on disadvantaged youths or refugees to clean up heritage buildings, if their owners agreed.

The Local Government Association will lobby for similar legislative changes covering all local government areas following a vote of councils at the LGA’s annual meeting last month.

In his letter to Port-Enfield, Mr Wortley said he was willing to consider a broader submission from councils on the issue “based on information from across the sector, including experience with current legislative and other options”.

[rev]

Why doesn't the council just increase the council rates for those who leave their buildings neglected?
Double or triple their annual rates.

[baytram366]

Posted today on AdelaideNow:
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6227738838

What are your thoughts? I think more needs to be done but its a fairly good start...

[Hooligan]

Posted today on AdelaideNow:
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6227738838

What are your thoughts? I think more needs to be done but its a fairly good start...

Mr Weatherill said the redeveloped boulevard area would provide a long-needed link between the commercial centre of the Port and the historic dock-side area.

I read that as, It would provide a long-needed link between nowhere special and nothing significant.

[Will]

Posted today on AdelaideNow:
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6227738838

What are your thoughts? I think more needs to be done but its a fairly good start...

I think this is a good start.

Indeed, in retrospect, things like this should have been done before any residential development at Port Adelaide. You have to make the area attractive before people actually want to live there.

[Vee]

I think this is a good start.

Indeed, in retrospect, things like this should have been done before any residential development at Port Adelaide. You have to make the area attractive before people actually want to live there.

Agree.
The Port has so many fabulous heritage buildings, many of which have been left to deteriorate. Restoration and re-purposing of public and privately owned buildings and a spruced up boulevard as proposed would help to revitalize the Port, make it more attractive to local residents and visitors and act as a catalyst to attract new residents and businesses.

I would like to see more warehouse conversions for residential and mixed development and sympathetic development in the older sections of the Port. I'm not a fan of the townhouse development on the wharf nor the fairly sterile Newport Quays development.

As Will said, "you have to make the area (more) attractive"... It will need an input of funds from local and state government to get the ball rolling and incentives for owners to invest in upgrades. The $3.6m revitalisation of this highly visible precinct won't be the 'tipping point' that is required but it's a start to a new beginning for the Port.

[Reb-L]

The Port is this fantastic opportunity that never seems to materialize. Why? Main reason: there's not enough people there. People go where there are other people. How to get more people there? Build lots of affordable housing around the port instead of creating new suburbs on farm land at Roseworthy or halfway to Victor. The land may be a bit more expensive but that'll be saved on infrastructure/transport. Get more attractions, not just the clipper - it'll certainly help but there must be more old ships rotting away somewhere. Encourage a lively harbor. Open a fast ferry link to the Yorke Peninsula to make it possible to day trip there - it might take a little while before it becomes profitable but if somebody says that 1,2 million people is not enough potential passengers they haven't been around very much. What else? Build a decent station for the new trains and give a rent holiday to entrepreneurs who want to take a chance in one of the many empty shops. There are lots more things that could be done but I don't think shutting out cars and creating an empty plaza with gray pavers are gonna make that much difference.

[Port Adelaide Fan]

2012 arrival date for City of Adelaide clipper

THE City of Adelaide clipper is likely to take its place as a standout historic attraction before the state celebrates its next birthday.

Save the Clipper City of Adelaide Preservation Trust director Peter Christopher said yesterday the vessel - a key part of SA's history - would be moved off a slipway in Scotland by the end of March.

Next year's arrival date depends on further fundraising for the ocean voyage to bring the ship to Adelaide.

The trust proposed four years ago that the ship's recovery to Adelaide be the major project to mark SA's 175th birthday today.

"But the fact that we will have it here next year is still a good outcome," Mr Christopher said.

The first two containers of prefabricated components of a large steel cradle left Port Adelaide at the end of October and will arrive at Irvine, where the ship sits, on January 6.

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[AdelaideAlive]

still think this will be wasted down at the port and should of been put on the torrens as a tourist attraction for the new riverban k project

[Hooligan]

still think this will be wasted down at the port and should of been put on the torrens as a tourist attraction for the new riverban k project

Yes because the torrens used to be a thriving port..........

[AdelaideAlive]

still think this will be wasted down at the port and should of been put on the torrens as a tourist attraction for the new riverban k project

Yes because the torrens used to be a thriving port..........

would have more people admiring and enjoying it then 2 men and a dog down at the port thats for sure,was the patawolonga at glenelg a port for the buffalo,dont even think it close to the shore.?

gee the falie and one and all are all doing well downt at the port,last time i checked i couldnt even find them, so if thats the way the clipper will end up, id gladly take it down at the torrens any day,and p.s no wise remarks about that last comment

[Hooligan]

I want to see all other areas of the state wither up and die and the CBD flourish

Fair enough.

[Aidan]

Yes because the torrens used to be a thriving port..........

would have more people admiring and enjoying it then 2 men and a dog down at the port thats for sure,was the patawolonga at glenelg a port for the buffalo,dont even think it close to the shore.?

Not only was the Patawalonga not a port, it didn't originally flow into the sea there. There was a swamp at the time stretching from the Patawalonga to the Port River the Torrens and Patawalonga outlets were constructed later.

[AdelaideAlive]

I want to see all other areas of the state wither up and die and the CBD flourish

Fair enough.

dont know where that quote came from, ive never ever said that, someone has come up with some clever typing i think