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#1141 Post by crawf » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:04 am

This is fantastic news and should happen ASAP. If Melbourne can do it with it's miserably weather then so can we!
Will wrote:Excellent idea, however, if this is to work, the authorities must do something about the dozens of drunk and abusive homeless and Aboriginal people in the CBD. I personally have after a few undesirable incidents given up on eating alfresco. I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way.
My partner and I were having dinner outside a restaurant along Rundle Street one night, and got harassed by some creepy guy after our cans of drinks. We ofcourse said no, and he replied that he would stand and wait. He left after kindly telling him to f*ck off.

Though this happens everywhere.

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#1142 Post by Waewick » Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:36 am

the problem with alfreso dining in Adealide (I maybe repeating myself here)

is it basically translates into eating next to a major road - which means pedestrians and cars everywhere.

That is the reason I don't eat outside in the city, until they get the food served off the major roads (lane ways etc) I won't bother.

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#1143 Post by [Shuz] » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:04 am

It is encouraging news and I enthusasitically congratulate and support the Lord Mayor and the ACC for pushing ahead with these reforms to improve Adelaide's alfresco dining experience.

However, as noted previously, their real potential can only be truly realised if they are adopted in tandem with reforms to traffic management (e.g. calming measures) and the pedestrianisation of key dining precincts - most notably Rundle, Hutt and Gouger Streets.

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#1144 Post by metro » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:15 am

[Shuz] wrote:However, as noted previously, their real potential can only be truly realised if they are adopted in tandem with reforms to traffic management (e.g. calming measures) and the pedestrianisation of key dining precincts - most notably Rundle, Hutt and Gouger Streets.

:cheers:
Leigh Street is probably one of the best streets in the city, I think it would be really nice if Rundle street, Hindley Street and Gouger street could be done in a similar way.

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#1145 Post by jk1237 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:31 pm

Leigh St was wonderful when I went through an hour or 2 ago. The street was closed off to traffic, the restuarants put tables and chairs in the middle of the street, the Burger Theory Van was there with lots of hipsters eating their burgers. Great atmosphere and lots of people around.

And a nice little Asian hairdresser lady managed to cut my hair how I wanted for $15 despite speaking little Engrish
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#1146 Post by jk1237 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:36 pm

btw, our street beggars are nothing compared to the ones in Montreal, especially on a street called Rue St Dennis. Most alfresco cafes over there have a little fence separating the tables and footpath, but that didnt stop one beggar after another coming in and asking everyone for money, in French though.

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#1147 Post by Vee » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:51 pm

Good move by Lord Mayor, Stephen Yarwood and the ACC. Bring it on!

Adelaide's Mediterranean climate is ideal for outdoor dining. Residents and visitors embrace it and it adds significantly to the vibe, colour and atmosphere of the city. Improved clear, outdoor blinds have extended the dining experience into the colder and wet periods, making the precincts attractive year round. Widened pavements not only accommodate extra tables, more cover/shade umbrellas and increased foot traffic but also provide additional space for more shade trees (please) and planter boxes. Rundle Street East is a classic example where this would have a significant effect.

Agree with Shuz re need for traffic calming devices. Safety of diners and pedestrians is paramount. Wider pavements, narrow streets, limited/no onstreet parking, low speed limits etc mean pedestrians rule and can easily wander, cross the street and browse.

Smoke free alfresco dining areas are essential. Where does the push for smoke-free outdoor dining sit with this scheme? (previous proposal to offer cheaper fees for smoke free outdoor tables as an incentive to businesses) I look forward to being able to dine alfresco without the issue of secondhand smoke spoiling the experience.

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#1148 Post by Ben » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:00 pm

Chesser Street

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#1149 Post by crawf » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:09 pm

Yes!, more of this please
Vee wrote: Smoke free alfresco dining areas are essential. Where does the push for smoke-free outdoor dining sit with this scheme? (previous proposal to offer cheaper fees for smoke free outdoor tables as an incentive to businesses) I look forward to being able to dine alfresco without the issue of secondhand smoke spoiling the experience.
I'm a non smoker, though I believe restaurants and cafes should have the choice to have smoke free alfresco dining areas. I do like however, how the Adelaide City Council is giving extra perks for businesses banning smoking outside. Other metropolitan councils need to adopt this.

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#1150 Post by Will » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:44 pm

Ben wrote:Chesser Street

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Is that a real photo, or is it a computer rendering?

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#1151 Post by [Shuz] » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:46 pm

That's a real photo. I walked past it today, looks great!
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#1152 Post by Ben » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:37 pm

yep its real :)

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#1153 Post by Howie » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:03 am

FYI, split height and planning limit overhaul discussion into a seperate thread..
http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... f=7&t=3908

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#1154 Post by omada » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:36 am

Are the ACC going to close Chesser street to traffic permanently? That would be great. It does need however, more than a strip of astro turf and a few wine barrels.

Good start though, less talk and more action on using laneways and streets please ACC!

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#1155 Post by Will » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:37 am

It is an outrage if the Biccentennial conservatory is switched off.

Nevertheless, the fact that only 35 000 people visit it per year, is a sad indictment on how crap our tourism promotion infraestructure is. Just pick up the 'Adelaide' guide to see how bad it really is. No wonder people think there is nothing to do here.

For example the listing for the Botanic Gardens is so lame, that it makes it seem as though it is just a pleasant grassed area with some flowers. It only makes passing references to the Biccenteneial Conservatory, the Museum of Economic Botany and no mention of the new Amazon waterlilly pavillion, or the 19th century glasshouse.

Tourists, need to be told what to see! as by definition, they are not locals, and hence don't know what to do. That is the role of tourism brochures.

The Biccentenial Conservatory would not be in trouble if it was promoted adequately! Come on, make people want to visit the place!


From the Messenger:
Meeting on the future of the Botanic Gardens

Local News7 Feb 12 @ 09:00am

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Friends of the Botanic Gardens president Helena Jenkinson is upset at plans to switch off heating this year in the tropical Bicentennial Conservatory due to budget cuts. Picture: Calum Robertson.


A public meeting will be held tonight (Tuesday, February 7) to discuss plans to cut costs at the Bicentennial Conservatory.

The Friends of the Botanic Gardens of Adelaide will meet with Botanic Gardens executive director Stephen Forbes to talk about the future of the conservatory.

It was last month revealed the conservatory would cease operating as a glasshouse for tropical rainforest plants because the garden had decided to stop paying its $72,000 annual heating bill.

The meeting will be held at the Noel Lothian Hall, off Hackney Rd behind the herbarium, at 7.45pm.

The conservatory, which was built in 1989, attracts about 35,000 visitors a year

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