News & Discussion: Adelaide Development Plan Amendment 2012

[AdelaideAlive]

Yuck, no thank you.

Reminds me of this...

looks like a genie is about to pop out the top of it at any time

[Howie]

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anyone remember this proposal cause sure as hell i dont

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/real-esta ... 6264074285

Yep, that's a story Al and I broke on Sensational-Adelaide a few years back.
http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... =17&t=1123

The Advertiser basically took the renders and the comments from our website verbatim without even sourcing us mind you. Which is a shame, because they grabbed the thumbnail picture posted on this site and it looks awful, i've got a huge 100mb wallpaper version which looks a million times better.

[PeFe]

Why our city must now grow up

An artist's impression of a proposed apartment building on Flinders Street, Adelaide.

ADELAIDE stands on the edge of its next great transformation - one that aims to stop the outward growth and return the population to the place where the city began.
A city founded almost 200 years ago on the plans of Colonel William Light has been shaped ever since by the powerful forces of market demand, economic growth and government policy.

Change has been constant but accelerated by five quantum shifts, one of which has only just begun.

As Adelaide's population has grown in the past two centuries, so has its footprint.

In the beginning, the city was spotted with London-style squares. It had a population of less than 9000 people living and working in 1000 buildings. It was bounded by greenery, the precursor of the modern parklands.

In just a few short generations, Adelaide has come to straddle the gap from Gawler to Sellicks Beach and is now home to more than 1.3 million people, who have fallen in love with cars and big suburban backyards.

The State Government is attempting to reverse the trend with a planning review that would shift population back to the city.

Natural growth is forecast to increase Adelaide's population by 560,000 in three decades.

The move comes despite warnings that infrastructure will be pushed beyond breaking point and quality of life eroded.

Integrated Design Commissioner Tim Horton says hesitation is understandable but he believes people will join the revolution once it is in full swing, claiming the full cost of fringe living has been underestimated.

"Most of the isolation and the mortgage stress is on the fringe," Mr Horton told The Advertiser.

"There's nothing wrong with suburbs and people who live in them, but they come with consequences."

Supply of electricity, gas, sewerage and water swells the further Adelaide sprawls. The increasing personal cost of fuel will also drive demand for housing in the city or near public transport, Mr Horton said.

While Colonel Light is often credited as Adelaide's great planning visionary, he can claim little credit for the shape of the city today. Nor could he have anticipated the revolutions it has undergone.

Changes in technology, lifestyle and governments have colluded to deliver Adelaide as it stands today.

The modern urban form owes almost as much to two conservative premiers as it does to Colonel Light.

Sir Richard Layton Butler gave generous backing for the suburban manufacturing sector throughout the Depression and increased sector employment from 20,000 to 30,000. At the same time, many moved from the city's agricultural edges to the centre looking for work and Hindley, Rundle and King William streets flourished.

Sir Thomas Playford built on that industrial base throughout the 40s and 50s with infrastructure investment in water and power.

He established the Housing Trust to promote population growth and keep prices down.

While the Housing Trust has since become synonymous with welfare, it began as an economic driver.

It built cheaply and densely, and was marketed to draw workers from interstate to South Australia. Price caps on fuel and food kept the cost of living down and pushed the population beyond one million by 1963.

Urban Development Institute of Australia executive director Terry Walsh said there would always be a place for the large home on a big suburban block, but demographic shifts were changing today's market.

The biggest growth sector in the post-2000 world is single-occupant dwellings. A bubble of baby boomers is also set to retire in the coming decade and will look for smaller, low-maintenance homes.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6268186138

[victorious80]

Not necessarily advocating Adelaide does the same, but here is an example of the difference a good sized and well designed building can make to a city.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthrea ... 8&page=104

[AdelaideAlive]

Not necessarily advocating Adelaide does the same, but here is an example of the difference a good sized and well designed building can make to a city.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthrea ... 8&page=104

we can only dream

[Ben]

From The Messenger:

$340m development ready - but new building heights needed

16 Feb 12 @ 08:00am by Alice Higgins

A City Messenger investigation has found local and interstate developers are ready to lodge more than $340 million worth of development plans but will bin their proposals or invest in the eastern states if the State Government does not lift building heights.

The City Messenger last August reported Planning Minister John Rau ordered his department to review the City Council’s planning policies.

As part of the review, expected to be handed down by mid-year, Mr Rau is tipped to alter council guidelines governing maximum building heights, density and design.

Pruszinski Architects principal Paul Pruszinski, who has designed 12 multi-storey buildings in the CBD in the past decade, said one of his clients had $250 million worth of development plans ready to lodge.

He said the client would bin plans for the residential development, which would span “several buildings” on the eastern side of the city, if heights were not raised.

“I have an interstate developer with one of the biggest projects Adelaide will see and we will lose that project if the height limits do not change,” Mr Pruszinski said.

“They are not prepared to lodge that until this issue is resolved because they think they are completely wasting their time under the current development plan.”

Existing guidelines allow for developments 103m-tall in two narrow stretches either side of King William St but the majority of areas are restricted to 28m or 40m in height.

Hines Property managing director James Hines said he had more than $50 million worth of development plans ready to go if “antiquated and inferior” guidelines were altered.

“We have projects which will depend on heights being lifted as to whether we proceed with them,” Mr Hines said.

“The current planning regime makes a lot of development unviable in the city.”

Mr Hines said local and interstate developers would be more willing to invest in Adelaide if guidelines were changed.

Property Council SA executive director Nathan Paine said he was aware of at least one local developer ready to submit plans for a $40 million residential building, also on the eastern side of the city.

“They have not done anything because they just could not make the site work but, speaking to the owner of the site now, they say if the expected height increases go through, they will be lodging and building,” Mr Paine said.

“I have also spoken to a number of developers who say they will focus on doing developments in Adelaide if height limits are lifted, otherwise they will consider whether they do it here or interstate.

“It will generate hundreds of millions in potential investment in the future (if height limits are raised).”

[skyliner]

With the impending mining boom it is imperative we get this right. Look at the development now - the demand is there already. Also I am sure flight paths do not have to affect the the whole CBD. I think the biggest blockages are the well known councillors who seem to resist much such development.

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE

[AdelaideAlive]

With the impending mining boom it is imperative we get this right. Look at the development now - the demand is there already. Also I am sure flight paths do not have to affect the the whole CBD. I think the biggest blockages are the well known councillors who seem to resist much such development.

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE

i honestly think the flightpaths arguement are a furfee,im sure there are a lot of major cities around the world where they arent far from the airport how do they get around it

[Reb-L]

I find it a bit depressing that Adelaide's deveopment is being held back by a comfortable minority with some sentimental attachment to the old days when nothing was taller than the church spire. They like to think of themselves as being responsible and caring for our city's future but in reality it is the opposite; such a mentality puts our future at risk by saying no to opportunity, employment and the vitality of the place. Life is change.

[Howie]

From the Property Council of Australia

New Authority to light the way to better communities

The Property Council has welcomed the State Government’s announcement that its Urban Renewal Authority will commence on 1 March 2012, saying it is a critical step in delivering key elements of the 30-Year Plan for Greater Adelaide.

Property Council of Australia (SA Division) Executive Director Nathan Paine says renewal authorities are critical for delivering better communities and new lifestyle opportunities, and for easing housing affordability pressures.

“The formation of the Urban Renewal Authority means there’s will now be one State Government voice for all urban development matters, and a single gateway to the housing and development services that government provides,” Mr Paine said.

“This will mean greater efficiency for the countless businesses that work in the property industry.

“Further, streamlined government development processes mean the industry can focus more of its energies on making renewal communities the best they can be.”

[AdelaideGo]

With the impending mining boom it is imperative we get this right. Look at the development now - the demand is there already. Also I am sure flight paths do not have to affect the the whole CBD. I think the biggest blockages are the well known councillors who seem to resist much such development.

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE

I am not sure if the demand for CBD residential building is there in Adelaide. As far as I learn from the real estate agencies, there are not many transactions from those recently approved developments (ie 12 Rowlands, 70 Franklin). Even for those buildings that are completed for a few years (e.g. Balfours), the developer is still selling their residual stock and the building occupancy is not high.

Is this because the developers have built the wrong buildings? I am not talking about the question of providing support infrastructure to the residents (ie. transport, public amenities, etc), because infrastructure changes are generally beyond the influence of a single development. I am talking about the reason why people are not buying/renting CBD apartments and things that are within the design parameters of the architect, what does people want for their CBD apartment?

[Omicron]

Not necessarily advocating Adelaide does the same, but here is an example of the difference a good sized and well designed building can make to a city.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthrea ... 8&page=104

It's a fine-looking building in isolation, but my God, Adelaide looks so much better.



Hahaha.

[jk1237]

is that in either Kansas City or Oklahoma City?

[Omicron]

is that in either Kansas City or Oklahoma City?

Oklahoma City.

[Stefan]

Anyone got any further information on these proposalls on the eastern side of the city that will go ahead if the city height limits are revoked?