News & Discussion: Other Metropolitan Developments

All high-rise, low-rise and street developments in areas other than the CBD and North Adelaide. Includes Port Adelaide and Glenelg.
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#1021 Post by Torrens_5022 » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:51 pm

The Parafield site could also be an Ikea, what would happen if they closed the Adeaide Airport store, maybe Bunnings would buy it.

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#1022 Post by SouthAussie94 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:14 am

Ben wrote:I think the one south could also potentially be an Ikea. They announced recently they were going to be opening a lot more stores and another 1 or 2 in SA.
Things aren't going particularly well for Ikea Adelaide at the moment. The lower AUD is hurting them quite a bit..
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#1023 Post by bits » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:49 am

Mitre10 built the modbury store on North east road that eventually became a burnings. But that was prior to the banner mitre10 merge so maybe things have changed slightly.

I could see Woolworth splitting Parafield in to a Woolworths and big w.

Stratco maybe but they have existing stores in the area.
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#1024 Post by crawf » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:05 pm

bits wrote:Mitre10 built the modbury store on North east road that eventually became a burnings. But that was prior to the banner mitre10 merge so maybe things have changed slightly.

I could see Woolworth splitting Parafield in to a Woolworths and big w.
Doubt that, there is already both stores in nearby Salisbury and a Woolies in Mawson Lakes.

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#1025 Post by ChillyPhilly » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:03 pm

crawf wrote:
bits wrote:Mitre10 built the modbury store on North east road that eventually became a burnings. But that was prior to the banner mitre10 merge so maybe things have changed slightly.

I could see Woolworth splitting Parafield in to a Woolworths and big w.
Doubt that, there is already both stores in nearby Salisbury and a Woolies in Mawson Lakes.
That won't stop them. They'll get to compete with the independent markets and wholesalers around there (e.g. Paddy's).

With Bunnings a short distance down the road (who nobody in SA can compete with), it's unlikely that a hardware business, such as Mitre 10, will take it.

I'd rule out Ikea for the time being, although CostCo probably isn't out of the question.
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#1026 Post by Goodsy » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:10 pm

ChillyPhilly wrote:
crawf wrote:
bits wrote:Mitre10 built the modbury store on North east road that eventually became a burnings. But that was prior to the banner mitre10 merge so maybe things have changed slightly.

I could see Woolworth splitting Parafield in to a Woolworths and big w.
Doubt that, there is already both stores in nearby Salisbury and a Woolies in Mawson Lakes.
That won't stop them. They'll get to compete with the independent markets and wholesalers around there (e.g. Paddy's).

With Bunnings a short distance down the road (who nobody in SA can compete with), it's unlikely that a hardware business, such as Mitre 10, will take it.

I'd rule out Ikea for the time being, although CostCo probably isn't out of the question.

What about Bing Lee

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#1027 Post by metro » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:02 pm

GoodSmackUp wrote:What about Bing Lee
Most of the Bing Lee stores I've been to are smaller then an average Good Guys store, there's no way they'd need the full Masters Warehouse space, also Bing Lee is a Sydney/NSW chain they dont really have any stores outside of NSW, so it's unlikely they'd open in SA.

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#1028 Post by Goodsy » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:15 pm

metro wrote:
GoodSmackUp wrote:What about Bing Lee
Most of the Bing Lee stores I've been to are smaller then an average Good Guys store, there's no way they'd need the full Masters Warehouse space, also Bing Lee is a Sydney/NSW chain they dont really have any stores outside of NSW, so it's unlikely they'd open in SA.
True.

There really aren't many stores that need as much floorspace as Bunnings. Maybe they could convert the space at parafield into some kind of indoor entertainment area

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#1029 Post by Brucetiki » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:08 pm

GoodSmackUp wrote:
metro wrote:
GoodSmackUp wrote:What about Bing Lee
Most of the Bing Lee stores I've been to are smaller then an average Good Guys store, there's no way they'd need the full Masters Warehouse space, also Bing Lee is a Sydney/NSW chain they dont really have any stores outside of NSW, so it's unlikely they'd open in SA.
True.

There really aren't many stores that need as much floorspace as Bunnings. Maybe they could convert the space at parafield into some kind of indoor entertainment area
Ice sport authorities in Brisbane are planning to convert some of the never-to-open Masters up there into an ice rink (which, hopefully, will see a Qld team back in the AIHL), and someone is planning to build an O'Brien Group Arena style ice skating complex here. Perhaps the Parafield Masters could at least form a start for something like this (as they want 3 rinks, which the current Masters sites will probably be too small for).

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#1030 Post by how good is he » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:49 pm

The more I think about it, the more unlikely it is that Woolworths will sell Masters to a competing business/company like a Costco/Officeworks/Bunnings owned by Coles.
A wild card would be if Woolworths can't get a buyer/fair price for Masters that they re-brand the sites to there other brands like Dan Murphys/Big Ws/Woolworths depending if they have existing stores nearby (which many do), possibly use them as distribution centres or as a whole new brand to take on Costco and turn them into bulk buy warehouses.

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#1031 Post by PeFe » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:14 pm

Absolutely fantastic article from In Daily on the economic and social benefits of limiting the suburban sprawl.
I should really print it out for myself so I can have it on hand for all future relevant discussions.
Why capping Adelaide's urban sprawl is good for everyone
OPINION
Contrary to political and industry criticism, limiting Adelaide's urban sprawl will be good for the city and for jobs, argues planner George Giannakodakis.

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Urban infill creates more jobs for the building sector than greenfields development - so why are developers opposing a cap on Adelaide's sprawl? Photo: Nat Rogers/InDaily
The recent political push back on the need for urban growth management, by housing and building lobby groups and the US-based and self-styled think tank Demographia is surprising on many levels. But this has not been as surprising as the lack of political bipartisanship on the policy, given that it was a State Liberal Urban Planning Minister, Diana Laidlaw, who first pushed for greater urban density in the inner city, a limit on urban sprawl through imposition of a boundary, and population growth in the city.

The 1999 ‘Green Paper’ called for increasing housing choice by continuing to encourage infill and redevelopment in middle ring suburbs (Mawson Lakes to Marion) or urban regeneration and protecting areas set aside for future housing and industrial development and prime agricultural land. At that time it was an increasingly difficult task given that greenfield development represented the majority share of all new housing.

Shifting demand for housing

Putting ideological views aside, information and analysis is critical in community debate. Unfortunately it has been conspicuously absent in relation to the proposed state planning reforms. The proposed ‘Environmental Food and Protection Zones’ would do as the name suggests, but for the sake of urban growth management is referred to herein as an Urban Growth Boundary.

In contrast to the early 2000’s the conditions for a boundary have changed. A phenomena across all Australian cities, including Adelaide, is that demand has shifted to the middle ring suburbs reflecting people’s changing living preferences, and younger generations choosing to live in middle and inner ring locations, closer to main streets and good public transport.

Infill now represents up to 80% of all development in some Australian cities. In Adelaide there is currently enough zoned or deferred urban land within the boundary to cater for 25-35 years of greenfield growth (at current rates); between 55-70 years of higher density housing capacity in the city; and up to 90 years of infill housing capacity in the middle ring suburbs, even after preserving character and historic residential areas. Therefore, it is highly unlikely an Urban Growth Boundary would trigger a spike in house and land prices.

http://indaily.com.au/opinion/2016/02/1 ... r-everyone
Read the whole article at the above link.

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#1032 Post by Ben » Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:02 pm

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Beloved old cafe to close to make way for hip new apartments at Kent Town
February 29, 2016 12:47pm
Dan Jervis-Bardy

AS she darts around Tin Cat Cafe, Claire Graham tends to every customer, cappuccino and misplaced chair like a doting mother.

“The Tin Cat is my eldest child,” Ms Graham says.

“I have seen it grow from a shy child, to a precious toddler, a confident pre-teen, and now wiser than her teenage years.

“But it is a wayward child, and Tincat needs a rest.”

Ms Graham, 42, has agreed to sell the Rundle St property to Hummingbird Homes, which plans to redevelop the site as mixed-use apartment, restaurant and office complex.

The art-deco cafe will stay open until at least November, before it leaves the city-fringe for good.

“Heading into our 17th year, I took a long, hard look at the sacrifices this necessitates on my family,” Ms Graham says of her decision to sell.

“I look at my children (Ruby and Lainey) and see 11 years of schooling ahead, with me being available only on the shoulders of service time — and never on weekends.

“They deserve a mother that is present.”

Ms Graham’s family bought 107 Rundle St in 1999, and quickly turned the then-bakery into Adelaide’s “original hipster joint”.

“It was a good fit for our artistic and hospitality sensibilities,” she says.

Art and hospitality have always blended seamlessly at Tincat, with colourful and quirky paintings, chairs and ornaments filling the cafe’s interior and spilling out onto its tree-filled courtyard.

It is a theme that has this year extended beyond the cafe, as part of the Little Rundle St art project.

The 800m promenade of graffitied walls, shops and businesses was designed to brighten the dreary laneway.

But it was also Ms Graham’s way of saying goodbye, and thank you, to the community she adores.

“Once I decided to sell, I reflected on what made Tin Cat important to the community … and the point of difference was our endeavour to promote and support local emerging artists,” she says.

“I hope to leave a legacy … an arts tribute to the time my family, and by extension, the cafe’s family, have spent (here).”

Ms Graham has not ruled out reopening “Tinny” down the track, but says her focus is on exploring her street art project and spending time with her children.

“I had a childhood filled to the brim with weekends at the park, art and museum visits and family,” she says.

“I want to recreate some of those experiences for my daughters.”

Hummingbird Homes has applied to Norwood, Payneham & St Peters Council to redevelop 107 Rundle St, Kent Town, which it bought last year for an undisclosed amount.

Plans include:

A FIVE-storey, 14-apartment building next to Little Rundle St;

RE-FITTING the ground floor of Tincat Cafe as a restaurant and bar, with outdoor dining, and;

A FIRST floor, co-working office space

Hummingbird Homes director Daniel McOmish said the mixed-use development would cater to increasing demand for “boutique” living, dining and working options close to the city.

It comes as the Leabrook-based property group awaits council approval for a $6.5 million, 19-townhouse development to the Tincat site, at 99-103 Rundle St.

“We consider there to be a market requirement for all three uses (residential, commercial and hospitality) and I think they will complement each other well,” Mr McOmish said.

“The retention and restoration of the heritage elements of the building and continuing the artistic theme … should help create an exciting and innovating development.”

Mr McOmish said apartments would be priced in the “mid to upper $400,000s”.

He expected construction to start before the end of the year and take 12-15 months, subject to council approval.

Tin Cat owner Claire Graham was confident Mr McOmish’s vision would carry on the cafe’s legacy in Kent Town.

“Speaking with Daniel about the plans for the site is inspiring,” Ms Graham said.

“He will pay homage to the building’s long history as a food venue and its shorter history as an artspace”.

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Re: Infill Developments | Metropolitan Adelaide

#1033 Post by duke » Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:18 pm

Been driving down to Hallett Cove for the past month for my wife's work. I have never really been down this area so it was interesting to see the development going on down there.
I notice there is a new land release near the shopping centre. But I was wondering if anyone knows why there has been no infill development along Majors Road?
There is also a huge amount of land between the quarry and Lonsdale Road. This location would also have nice sea views.
It seems weird that we continue to push north and south while there are these huge pockets of land around.
Does anyone know anything about these areas?


Edit. I just answered one of them myself https://www.adelaide.edu.au/woodland-re ... lenthorne/
This land must be worth a lot though.

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#1034 Post by fishinajar » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:10 pm

duke wrote:Been driving down to Hallett Cove for the past month for my wife's work. I have never really been down this area so it was interesting to see the development going on down there.
I notice there is a new land release near the shopping centre. But I was wondering if anyone knows why there has been no infill development along Majors Road?
There is also a huge amount of land between the quarry and Lonsdale Road. This location would also have nice sea views.
It seems weird that we continue to push north and south while there are these huge pockets of land around.
Does anyone know anything about these areas?


Edit. I just answered one of them myself https://www.adelaide.edu.au/woodland-re ... lenthorne/
This land must be worth a lot though.
I think I remember hearing somewhere that the soil around there is not particularly suitable for development. Hence it was reserved off for other uses.

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#1035 Post by Norman » Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:07 pm

Given the state of the road surface, it must be pretty bad!

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