HAHAHA OMG thats just such a stupid thing to say, how old are you? Glenelg is for the people of Adelaide NOT for people in nursing homes that only see the outside through a window, I think you should call the nurse, someones dangerously over-reacting. the GOLD COAST?? hahahaNIMBY23 wrote:We are all determined to ensure that glenelg does not turn into the gold coast.
AGAIN!!! ITS NOT YOUR BACKYARD. your just a selfish old person that only cares about yourself.NIMBY23 wrote: NOT IN MY BACKYARD !!!
It's an ugly coastline. The buildings block all the sunlight in the afternoon.
Well put shuz, and it's worth noting that NIMBY's are a major reason why we must now rapidly boost SA's population. The NIMBY attitude has caused (through a variety of mechanisms) a mass exodus of young people from SA for too many years. Rebalancing our age demographic to ensure ongoing prosperity is of paramount importance. And yes, this population growth must be done in a sustainable way via increasing urban density.Shuz wrote: How do you justify your opinion that low-scale density (eg: suburbia) is a sustainable lifestyle measure, considering the impacts of accelerated population growth, global warming and commuter travel issues? Surely you must be conscious of your children and grandchildren's future, and I would hope that you want them to be brought up in a sustainable world. I think people like you, and your 5000 like-minded friends need to be conscious of others and how this affects them. This development is merely adressing these concerns, by reducing the need for extra infrastructure to be built (at your expense, keep in mind!), by reducing carbon footprints with environmentally friendly measures, by increasing the concentration of people in a location for public transport to be utilised to their maximal potential, I could go on and on.
Again, this is 42m, the Gold Coast's tallest tower is 323m. You have absolutely nothing to worry about when it comes to 'hi-rise living' (this is considered medium density development by the way) and I'm sure buildings can't even be built higher then they already are because of airspace limations with the flight path in close proximity. And as for sunlight concerns in the afternoon - it sets in the west, unless your smoking something and hallucinating otherwise...
Tell this to your friends, and be honest, tell us then how many still agree with your perspective.
College anger
Kym Morgan
27May08
An artist's impression of the College St development.
An artist's impression of the College St development.
BAY residents have lost a four-year battle to block controversial plans to build a 12-storey apartment complex in place of an historic Glenelg house.
The State Development Assessment Commission (DAC) gave the $110 million, 170-apartment Urban Construct project on College St the green light last Thursday (May 22), despite registered opposition from 53 parties and personal deputations from nine people.
The development approval is subject to amendments, but the DAC and Urban Construct refused to disclose them when contacted by the Guardian Messenger last week.
An 1870s College St house and a car park used by residents of the adjacent Manson Towers retirement village will be lost to make way for the development.
During the two-hour DAC hearing at the Holiday Inn, Hindley St, last Thursday:
Seven surrounding residents, the Stamford Grand Hotel and Holdfast Bay Council opposed the project.
Manson Towers resident Kathleen Job argued it would lead to loss of privacy, sea breezes and afternoon sun.
Stamford Grand Hotel lawyer Graham Black said the development could negatively impact on his client's business if some of the project's apartments were purchased by private operators and leased "legally or illegally" as hotel rooms.
Bell Planning spokeswoman Donna Ferretti opposed the development on behalf of Holdfast Bay Council and argued it could jeopardise council plans to build a multi-deck car park on a nearby Elizabeth St property.
Urban Construct chief executive Todd Brown said the development was a "stand out" because of its environmental features and would ease housing affordability pressure in Glenelg with some apartments expected to be sold for less than $200,000.
After the hearing, Mr Brown refused to field questions from the Guardian Messenger. He instead issued a written statement applauding the decision and said Urban Construct had already received 800 expressions of interest from potential buyers.
Ms Job said she was amazed and disappointed the DAC took just one day to approve the decision.
"To find it was all decided in one day, we wonder why we bothered to attend the hearing," she said.
Holdfast Bay Mayor Ken Rollond, who was elected on an anti-development ticket, said the council needed to decide quickly if it would appeal the decision through the courts. The council refused a previous application by Urban Construct for the same site, in 2004, saying it would change the use of the site and spoil College St's character.
That decision was upheld on appeals in the Environment Resources and Development Court and the Supreme Court.
On that occasion the developer wanted to demolish half the 1870s house, split between 3 and 5 College St, because it could not acquire number 5.
The company has since done a deal to buy 5 College St from Dr Pamela Ryan later this year, and plans to demolish the entire Victorian house.
yeah, i thought the same thing - but decided to post a reply anyway. There's lots of very new S-A members who should see why we continue to argue for increased urban density.Pikey wrote:Guys,
He's obviously here to take this piss and stir us up a bit. Looks like it's worked with some of us.
Ignore it.
It's been granted approval, it will be built. Happy days!
Exactly!.... Suffer in ya jocks NIMBY23Wayno wrote:yeah, i thought the same thing - but decided to post a reply anyway. There's lots of very new S-A members who should see why we continue to argue for increased urban density.Pikey wrote:Guys,
He's obviously here to take this piss and stir us up a bit. Looks like it's worked with some of us.
Ignore it.
It's been granted approval, it will be built. Happy days!
and it's therapeutic to vent your frustrations!
Lol, 'gullible' is my middle namePikey wrote:Guys,
He's obviously here to take this piss and stir us up a bit. Looks like it's worked with some of us.
Ignore it.
It's been granted approval, it will be built. Happy days!
The house is very nondescript. Sure it is old but there is honestly nothing interesting about its history or appearance to warrant heritage protection.Mants wrote:does anybody actually have a picture of this house?
i mean, it must be bloody worth all this fuss.
i think it's excellent that we're seeing more medium density housing in the suburbs. i would rather live in a glenelg apartment than on a 1/4 acre block down out at seaford anyday.
btw, what a ridiculous and selfish argument put up by the Stamford manager. he can't have a monopoly on hotel rooms in glenelg.
Thank you for that Will. I have to admit I get a twinge of regret when any old building is knocked over. But old and new have to co-exist, and at some point we do have to lose some old buildings. Glad to hear this one is not a gem we are about to lose, though. Yes, heritage issues do seem to have often been appropriated by the no-development brigade, for less than noble purposes. It's all a bit of a mess, really - no wonder Adelaide struggles to advanceWill wrote:The house is very nondescript. Sure it is old but there is honestly nothing interesting about its history or appearance to warrant heritage protection.Mants wrote:does anybody actually have a picture of this house?
i mean, it must be bloody worth all this fuss.
i think it's excellent that we're seeing more medium density housing in the suburbs. i would rather live in a glenelg apartment than on a 1/4 acre block down out at seaford anyday.
btw, what a ridiculous and selfish argument put up by the Stamford manager. he can't have a monopoly on hotel rooms in glenelg.
NIMBY's use heritage as a way to legitimise their ridiculous and selfish arguments. The real reason why these people are opposed is because they think they own things like sea breezes, afternoon sunlight, sea views...
"it's nimby season - hhehehehe" (said like elmer fudd)Norman wrote:I'm going down to Glenelg now to take a few pics. If I see any NIMBYs around you know what I'll do...
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