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Re: Famed clipper Adelaide finally coming home from Scotland
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 9:19 pm
by Port Adelaide Fan
Ship shape saving on Port-bound clipper
THE historic clipper City of Adelaide is hundreds of tonnes lighter than originally thought and will be up to $1 million cheaper to bring to the Port from Scotland as a result.
City of Adelaide Preservation Trust director Peter Christopher said the ship, which brought thousands of immigrants to South Australia in 23 voyages from 1864-86, had been estimated to weigh about 800 tonnes.
“When our own engineers went over and did their own calculations, their view is it weighs about 350 tonnes,” Mr Christopher said.
The lower estimate was due to the removal of concrete lining and ballast from the clipper, he said.
At 800 tonnes, the City of Adelaide would have had to be put on a “dock ship” - a ship that works like a seagoing semi-trailer, where the trailer is partially lowered under the water line for loading cargo.
more:
http://portside-messenger.whereilive.co ... d-clipper/
Re: Famed clipper Adelaide finally coming home from Scotland
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 10:26 pm
by metro
needs to go somewhere in Port Adelaide, where abouts are they going to put it?
Re: Famed clipper Adelaide finally coming home from Scotland
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 2:43 pm
by Port Adelaide Fan
Re: Famed clipper Adelaide finally coming home from Scotland
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:44 pm
by skyliner
OK - it's 21/05/11.....a mtg was held at PT Adel Caledonian Soc'y hall in Semaphore - plans outlined to return the clipper to Pt Adel. in second half of 2011. Now known to be the oldest existing clipper in the world. Much less costly than anticipated to get here as it is about 350 tons instead of 700 - 800 tones - due to cement ballast being removed. resultant cost to get here at about $1m. cheaper.
SOURCE -
http://cityofadelaide.org.au/2011-histo ... ation.html
Further contact - Peter Christopher Ph 0418 846 638
ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE
Re: Famed clipper Adelaide finally coming home from Scotland
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:21 pm
by Maximus
Historic City of Adelaide clipper ship on course for 2011 homecoming
# Stuart Innes
# From: The Advertiser
# May 31, 2011 11:00PM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6066816335
The return of the historic City of Adelaide clipper ship to Port Adelaide this year is within reach.
Clipper Ship City of Adelaide Preservation Trust director Peter Roberts yesterday said the ship's arrival in time for the December 28 birthday was still achievable.
It follows a meeting in Adelaide on Monday night of more than 15 Adelaide-based engineering firms that Mr Roberts said had crystallised the planning to build a special cradle to hold and move the ship.
"The engineers have discussed what materials still need to be donated and what labour needs to be donated to help build the cradle," Mr Roberts said. "The cradle needs to be under the ship by September or October for the ship to be in Port Adelaide by December 28."
The 100-tonne cradle will be built in Adelaide, dismantled for transport to Scotland in shipping containers, then reassembled there and placed under the ship.
On wheels, the cradle will then carry the ship, which now sits on a slipway at Irvine near Glasgow, and roll it on to a low-draft barge, which will take it to a transit port for craning on to an ocean-going ship that will bring the cradle and clipper to Port Adelaide.
Mr Roberts said the cradle would cost about $1 million to design and build commercially but was being done for a fraction of that thanks to materials and labour being donated. But help was still needed, he said. The Scottish Government was providing some funds for the ship's removal but the trust was still looking for help from the Australian Federal Government to transport the ship.
The City of Adelaide, built in 1864, is the world's oldest clipper ship. The only other surviving composite iron- frame and timber-hull clipper is the Cutty Sark, which is five years younger.
The ship was built to bring early settlers from the UK to the infant colony of South Australia. The state's longest-established families are linked to the ship. It is estimated nearly a quarter of a million descendants of its passengers live in Australia today.
The trust proposes to preserve - not restore - the clipper as a centrepiece of a Heritage Seaport Village in Port Adelaide. The City of Adelaide would join other old craft important in South Australia's maritime history, including the Nelcebee, Failie and Yelta, at the Port River village.
Re: Famed clipper Adelaide finally coming home from Scotland
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:44 pm
by Wayno
that's good news!
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:01 pm
by Port Adelaide Fan
Mayor's plea to breathe life back into Port
PORT Adelaide Enfield Mayor Gary Johanson has pleaded for help to revive Port Adelaide's inner precinct.
He wants the State Government to help revitalise and preserve the historic inner precinct of the Port.
Mr Johanson said it was time to "clean up" some derelict buildings and model the Port in line with Fremantle in Western Australia.
He has written to the State Government asking for a change in legislation to allow the council to force property owners to undertake basic cleaning and maintenance of the facade of their buildings.
"A lot of the owners bought the properties years ago but all these beautiful buildings just need a bit of TLC," Mr Johanson said.
"If the business owners didn't comply with the requirements, the council could then take it upon themselves to do the clean-up and send them the bill. The ratepayers would not have to pay for this."
Mr Johanson said his plan to go to council with a "three-step process" will attract tourists and people to the Port.
His vision involves working alongside local business owners, including making better use of vacant buildings on Commercial and St Vincent streets.
more:
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/property/ ... 6067496833
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:54 pm
by Waewick
I wish people would stop comparing Port Adelaide to Fremantle
they are completely different animals - for starters the enjoyable parts of Freo are on the Ocean...not a polluted river.
Port Adelaide needs to create it's own identity - but it is going to struggle to be anything like Fremantle when it is competing with places like Semaphore and HB which are actually on the Ocean.
To me it needs to be like East Perth.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:10 pm
by Burger
Waewick, I'm not familiar with East Perth but I agree that Adelaide locations in general need to stop being compared with other cities. I constantly hear of comparisons to Melbourne laneways, Freo's docks and the like. How about saying, here are a few of the good bits of other cities - let's create our own special mix that's unique to Adelaide.
Local conditions will almost always dictate what is done, so there's no point saying that you want to have a Freemantle-style wharf precinct (mmm, the Little Creatures' bar
) when the local conditions are very different.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:12 pm
by Waewick
East Fremantle reminds of what West Lakes could have been like.
medium-high denisty basically townhouses along the shores of the river. but there I go comparing things again
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:29 am
by crawf
West Lakes is already heading that direction
Re: Famed clipper Adelaide finally coming home from Scotland
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:52 pm
by skyliner
V good news overall!! I wonder what 'preserve' means concerning outward appearance (whether it is just the current hulk - what about the possibility of having masts erected again etc). It needs to be obvious at a distance IMO in at least a semi complete condition.
SA - STATE ON THE MOVE
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:01 pm
by mattblack
Not really a suprise but not a big deal.
MARITIME groups are disappointed the historic clipper City of Adelaide will not make it to the Port this year for South Australia’s 175th anniversary celebrations.
The City of Adelaide Preservation Trust had hoped the ship would arrive in the Port this year but ongoing negotiations with the Scottish government and a shortage of funding have caused the delay.
The ship, which sailed to South Australia 23 times from 1864-1886 bringing thousands of immigrants to the state, is expected to depart Scotland in March 2012 for arrival mid next year, the Trust said.
City of Adelaide Preservation Trust director Peter Roberts said the group was seeking about $2 million in Federal Government funding.
“We are over three-quarters of the way for funding - the Federal Government support would get us over the line,” he said.
“If we had the extra support we could have had the ship here for the state’s birthday.
“It’s frustrating but at the end of the day if the ship arrived here next year, it wouldn’t be the biggest deal in the world.”
Another Trust director Peter Christopher agreed: “But nevertheless the fact we’re on target now for 2012 is a positive.”
Adelaide Nautical College principal Arthur Boucaut-Jones said it was disappointing a lack of financial support had delayed the arrival.
“I was not confident that it would arrive,” Mr Boucaut-Jones said.
Maritime Union of Australia SA branch secretary Jamie Newlyn said the City of Adelaide would boost tourism for the Port - so the sooner it arrived, the better.
It is estimated the ancestors of 240,000 South Australians arrived on the City of Adelaide, the world’s oldest composite clipper ship.
Re: Is it too late to save the Port?
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:54 pm
by skyliner
I understand they want to preserve and keep the ship under cover rather than restore the ship as well - restoration costing an estimated $35m or so - yet a faint glimmer of talk of restoration has developed. If this could be achieved the effects would be incomparable on the tourist industry.
SA - STATE ON THE MOVE
Port Adelaide Enfield Strategic Directions 2011 Report
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:59 pm
by Howie
Just for those of you interested.. has some stuff on rezoning, superway, port adelaide area, hanson road, prospect road redevelopment, etc.
http://www.portenf.sa.gov.au/page.aspx?u=930&c=33927
Strategic Directions Report 2011 - Draft for Public Consultation
18 October 2011
Review of the Port Adelaide Enfield (City) Development Plan
In accordance with the Development Act 1993, Council has prepared a Strategic Directions Report 2011 that responds to the newest state planning strategy (the 30-Year Plan for Greater Adelaide) prepared by the Minister for Urban Development, Planning and the City of Adelaide.
The Strategic Directions Report 2011 considers possibilities for urban development throughout the Council area in coming years. In responding to the 30-Year Plan’s goals for population, employment, and dwelling growth, detailed consideration is given to factors such as transit-oriented developments, urban design, and land supply.
Discussion is also provided on local planning issues raised by residents, such as the Restricted Residential Policy Area on the eastern Lefevre Peninsula.
The Strategic Directions Report 2011 for consultation(32009 kb)
http://www.portenf.sa.gov.au/webdata/re ... tation.pdf
proposes a series of future Development Plan Amendments that rezone selected areas in the Council and encourage new land uses and building forms. (An abridged version is available in Appendix 1 of the report.)
Supporting Documentation
SDR Gazette Notice(847 kb) – indicating the requirements of the report.
Optional feedback form – questions that residents may wish to consider