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So, let corruption reign? Established Officials will end up looking after themselves, meaning they will be for sale to the highest bidder. At least with the current system we're all looking out for ourselves
What is corruption? People benefiting by exploiting the system? At least Corruption creates grey areas where we can keep accountable those in power. And let's be honest, we're not really looking out for ourselves. We get told who to vote for by the media.
I assume you are one of the enlightened ones?HiTouch wrote:I'm not against democracy or voting when done correctly. However, the country is full of uneducated people though and I think we need to re-educate the populace in understanding how our nation runs and what is needed so they know what they're actually voting for. Rather then trusting what Rupert is telling them, why not establish a General Directorate for Protection of the State.
At the moment the system is being easily exploited and Australia is going down to gurgler, all a government needs to do is cut funding to education (which is what is happening right now. We have an education standard comparable to Bosnia) and you can watch a government stay in power purely because the population knows no better.
Almost all those sound like money things also.rhino wrote: It's the middle class who are willing to take a little less in order for social services (hospitals, schools, national parks, public transport included) to have a slice of the pie.
Maybe I am? Maybe I am a disaffected Liberal Supporter who has lost faith due to the Liberal Party's inability to "pull their shit together"Waewick wrote: ↑Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:00 pmI assume you are one of the enlightened ones?HiTouch wrote:I'm not against democracy or voting when done correctly. However, the country is full of uneducated people though and I think we need to re-educate the populace in understanding how our nation runs and what is needed so they know what they're actually voting for. Rather then trusting what Rupert is telling them, why not establish a General Directorate for Protection of the State.
At the moment the system is being easily exploited and Australia is going down to gurgler, all a government needs to do is cut funding to education (which is what is happening right now. We have an education standard comparable to Bosnia) and you can watch a government stay in power purely because the population knows no better.
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Chapman was always a bad oman, Steven Marshall should have never let her into his cabinet. Although she appears progressive, her group are connected to the muddy NSW Liberals who spend more time investing in loopholes and devaluing the ICAC then getting any work done. Tarzia or Gardner were better choices. Even Sanderson would have been a better fit instead of her Minister for Child Protection which is basically a political death sentence.Jaymz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:09 pmIt's a shame the Liberals are in such disarray, because even amongst all of that they are doing a pretty good job of running the economy during the pandemic.
South Australia's Gross State Product has grown at 3.9% for the 2020/21 financial year and actually topped the nation, probably for the first time in decades.
Most pleasingly is manufacturing seems to be having somewhat of a resurgence....
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/econo ... st-release
While I'd like you to be right about the trams, the problem is that Morphettville is chock-full. So, unless it's a big extension justifying a new depot, where do the trams go? Plus, I suspect there's no more Citadis to be had (hooray), so a small order of trams has its own problems too. So, while we can hope, it's Powerball odds against.Llessur2002 wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 12:48 pmSo the State budget has been brought forward from September to next Thursday (2nd June) - does anyone want to make any guesses as to any surprises we might find outside of the previously announced election policies?
I'm expecting this one to be fairly low key but I'd like to think that we might hear something vaguely sexy announced - hopefully funding for the Port Dock rail spur (yes I'm very keen for a direct rail link from my house to Pirate Life) or possibly even a tram extension but I suspect I might be dreaming on that front in the short term.
lets look to 2025. It will be time for the next Federal election, and a year to go for the State election. A big announcement then makes real sense for State and Federal Labor. Announce a big extension funded Federally to help Federal Labor in 2025, and then have construction up and running a year later as the State election is due in 2026. A big extension would economically justify a bigger depot, and an economic number of trams.Not that I doubt what you're saying but what was the plan for the proposed Parade extension which Labor had planned to start in 2018/19 and complete by 2020 had they won the 2018 State election? As far as I am aware that didn't include a new depot but I think an extra 4 trams were included in the costings.rubberman wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 1:10 pmWhile I'd like you to be right about the trams, the problem is that Morphettville is chock-full. So, unless it's a big extension justifying a new depot, where do the trams go? Plus, I suspect there's no more Citadis to be had (hooray), so a small order of trams has its own problems too. So, while we can hope, it's Powerball odds against.
They proposed not only a Norwood extension, but also North Adelaide and Adelink. So, it must have been way more than four trams needed. I never saw a figure, but to service all those would require more than ten trams, likely closer to twenty. I agree if it were only four trams, something temporary could be done. Although buying four trams only would be a challenge if Madrid has run out of spare Citadis. I'm sure Melbourne would sell their Citadis...to any sucker wanting to buy. I hope we wouldn't get caught though.Llessur2002 wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 2:28 pmNot that I doubt what you're saying but what was the plan for the proposed Parade extension which Labor had planned to start in 2018/19 and complete by 2020 had they won the 2018 State election? As far as I am aware that didn't include a new depot but I think an extra 4 trams were included in the costings.rubberman wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 1:10 pmWhile I'd like you to be right about the trams, the problem is that Morphettville is chock-full. So, unless it's a big extension justifying a new depot, where do the trams go? Plus, I suspect there's no more Citadis to be had (hooray), so a small order of trams has its own problems too. So, while we can hope, it's Powerball odds against.
Does a new depot really have to be all bells and whistles or could Morphettville support maintenance of a slightly bigger fleet if a stabling-only solution could be found somewhere along a new route? If the latter, wouldn't that be as simple as purchasing a suitable plot of land close enough to the route? Presumably it would not need to be huge if it only needs to accommodate 4 more trams as an interim measure awaiting a larger depot which would accompany future extensions and I would have thought there would likely be at least one ex-industrial (or could be made ex) site around Kent Town that might be suitable.
If South Australia identified a need for a few new trams, was prepared to accept a new class, and wasn't rushed for quick acquisition, surely we could tack on the end of a Victorian order. Once they are ordered, we could negotiate with Victoria if we wanted a few a bit quicker and push out the end of their deliveries.rubberman wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 3:53 pmThey proposed not only a Norwood extension, but also North Adelaide and Adelink. So, it must have been way more than four trams needed. I never saw a figure, but to service all those would require more than ten trams, likely closer to twenty. I agree if it were only four trams, something temporary could be done. Although buying four trams only would be a challenge if Madrid has run out of spare Citadis. I'm sure Melbourne would sell their Citadis...to any sucker wanting to buy. I hope we wouldn't get caught though.Llessur2002 wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 2:28 pmNot that I doubt what you're saying but what was the plan for the proposed Parade extension which Labor had planned to start in 2018/19 and complete by 2020 had they won the 2018 State election? As far as I am aware that didn't include a new depot but I think an extra 4 trams were included in the costings.rubberman wrote: ↑Wed May 25, 2022 1:10 pmWhile I'd like you to be right about the trams, the problem is that Morphettville is chock-full. So, unless it's a big extension justifying a new depot, where do the trams go? Plus, I suspect there's no more Citadis to be had (hooray), so a small order of trams has its own problems too. So, while we can hope, it's Powerball odds against.
Does a new depot really have to be all bells and whistles or could Morphettville support maintenance of a slightly bigger fleet if a stabling-only solution could be found somewhere along a new route? If the latter, wouldn't that be as simple as purchasing a suitable plot of land close enough to the route? Presumably it would not need to be huge if it only needs to accommodate 4 more trams as an interim measure awaiting a larger depot which would accompany future extensions and I would have thought there would likely be at least one ex-industrial (or could be made ex) site around Kent Town that might be suitable.
If it was a bigger order, we might get something better. Anyhow, a pipe dream at the moment. But I do hope it can happen and will be happy to be proven wrong.