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The interstate freight line would be addressed if GlobeLink went ahead. I'm not familiar with the area to know if that would be sufficient, and it's definitely not a short-term fix, but neither should an underpass in this location.
This is the first I've heard of them Would I be correct in thinking they predate the Sizzler?Eurostar wrote:Does anyone remember the original proposals for Salisbury whereby the bus interchange was meant to be by former Sizzlers and underpass was meant to be built for Park Terrace instead of the current underpass?
Aidan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:59 amThis is the first I've heard of them Would I be correct in thinking they predate the Sizzler?Eurostar wrote:Does anyone remember the original proposals for Salisbury whereby the bus interchange was meant to be by former Sizzlers and underpass was meant to be built for Park Terrace instead of the current underpass?
Where exactly was that Sizzler anyway?
There's a second troublesome level crossing in Blackwood? Like most people from the Happy Valley/Aberfoyle/Flagstaff area I go to Blackwood via Coromandel Parade and Murrays Hill Rd, there's a very tall bridge over the rail there. For me the trouble has always been at the Glenalta crossing, where amounts of traffic are heading to/from Belair and Old Belair roads, and getting caught waiting for a freight train to go past is the worst.Aidan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:53 amNTRabbit,
It is possible to build an underpass without closing the railway any longer than would be required for normal trackwork, by using a prefabricated deck. In some cases it may be possible with no closure at all (using box jacking).
But I think RiseHigh was referring to the Blackwood crossing not the Glenalta crossing. The Blackwood crossing would be harder to grade separate, but not impossible. And it probably also requires something to be done to make it easier to turn right from East Terrace (Watahuna Avenue) to Main Road.
I'd rather they elevate the line from Kings Road to Commercial Road and kill 3 level crossings in one go. The ARTC line being there makes it a bit harder thoughChillyPhilly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:18 pmI'd like to see Park Terrace go underneath the railway line - a long box culvert should do the trick.
Even better. The ARTC line is a major barrier for locals.Goodsy wrote:I'd rather they elevate the line from Kings Road to Commercial Road and kill 3 level crossings in one go. The ARTC line being there makes it a bit harder thoughChillyPhilly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:18 pmI'd like to see Park Terrace go underneath the railway line - a long box culvert should do the trick.
At some stage in the future, the ARTC line could be replaced by a new route adjacent to the Northern Connector. That was a Labor plan, but the most likely time for it to actually happen seems to be as the end of the the GlobeLink from Monarto to Port Adelaide.ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:13 pmEven better. The ARTC line is a major barrier for locals.Goodsy wrote:I'd rather they elevate the line from Kings Road to Commercial Road and kill 3 level crossings in one go. The ARTC line being there makes it a bit harder thoughChillyPhilly wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:18 pmI'd like to see Park Terrace go underneath the railway line - a long box culvert should do the trick.
I wonder what it will mean for the Ghan and Indian Pacific. Freight can be moved relatively easy, but we can't put an interstate rail terminal in Dry Creek or at Monarto.SBD wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:40 pmAt some stage in the future, the ARTC line could be replaced by a new route adjacent to the Northern Connector. That was a Labor plan, but the most likely time for it to actually happen seems to be as the end of the the GlobeLink from Monarto to Port Adelaide.ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:13 pmEven better. The ARTC line is a major barrier for locals.Goodsy wrote:
I'd rather they elevate the line from Kings Road to Commercial Road and kill 3 level crossings in one go. The ARTC line being there makes it a bit harder though
I would guess that the existing line from Mile End to Dry Creek would remain for those services, and perhaps the Overland too if the Hills line returns to broad gauge or is taken over by commuter services.ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:45 pmI wonder what it will mean for the Ghan and Indian Pacific. Freight can be moved relatively easy, but we can't put an interstate rail terminal in Dry Creek or at Monarto.SBD wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:40 pmAt some stage in the future, the ARTC line could be replaced by a new route adjacent to the Northern Connector. That was a Labor plan, but the most likely time for it to actually happen seems to be as the end of the the GlobeLink from Monarto to Port Adelaide.ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:13 pmEven better. The ARTC line is a major barrier for locals.