Will wrote:Queen Anne wrote:crawf wrote:Cheers norm
That old house has a nice balcony, Mason Towers needs a bomb
Yes, thanks very much Norm
Well, as soon as I saw 3 & 5 College Street I realised that I have put my mouth into action before I put my brain into gear, on this thread
I am genuinely excited about higher density living and its environmental and societal benefits, but..
3 & 5 College Street does not look insignificant to me, and I should have read this thread more carefully and thought about things a bit more before submitting my posts.
I had a look on Wikipedia for John Colton (1823 - 1902), the former premier who lived in the house: He was premier twice (in the 1800's) before there was even a formal party system in SA. His ministries passed a "forward policy of public works in connection with railways and water supply" and also a public health act.
Imo, this house is not to be demolished lightly, even though I understand the need for Adelaide to develop and evolve. I think I wish that no 5 (I think it was) had not been sold, and that Urban Construct had been compelled to develop around it, keeping half of it (if I understand the situation correctly). I don't see a need to preserve our history like an untouchable shrine, but I do wish we would be more creative about how old and new can fit together.
I understand that, sometimes, old buildings just have to be demolished, if progress is to be made - I don't want Adelaide to fade away into insignifance - but I feel that this house does deserve some respect.
I am having an identity crisis! Half of me wants this development, for many reasons, but the other half worries about our history.
Caroline
Well if you remove the verandahs, it is essentially just an old box. There is a reason why this is not heritage listed.
I think that it would suffice if before demolition photographs were taken of the house for the archive and upon completion of the Latitude building, a plaque was erected at tits base to pay homage to the house and that it was the former house of Premier Colton.
I had a look on a website: Overview of Heritage in SA, and the criteria for state heritage..
Listing State Heritage Places
In response to nominations from the public and heritage surveys, and acting on advice from the Heritage Branch, State Heritage Places are entered in the Register by the Register Committee of the South Australian Heritage Council. The Council and the Committee are bodies established under the provisions of the Heritage Places Act 1993. Places are first provisionally entered, to allow a period for any representations, and subsequently either confirmed or removed. To be entered in the Register a State Heritage Place must satisfy one or more of the following criteria, which can be found in Section 16 of the Act.
It demonstrates important aspects of the evolution or pattern of the State's history.
It has rare, uncommon or endangered qualities that are of cultural significance.
It may yield information that will contribute to an understanding of the State's history, including its natural history.
It is an outstanding representative of a particular class of places of cultural significance.
It demonstrates a high degree of creative, aesthetic or technical accomplishment or is an outstanding representative of particular construction techniques or design characteristics.
It has strong cultural or spiritual associations for the community or a group within it.
It has a special association with the life or work of a person or organisation or an event of historical importance.
I wonder if 3 & 5 College Street could meet the last criteria, but I guess that you are right, Will, that there is a reason why the house is not state heritage listed - if it was warranted, I guess it would have been done by now?
I still want Glenelg, and Adelaide, to develop, (in fact, I think we *need* it). But, It still does bother me that unless a place has specific protection, it is "open season" on them. It annoys me that developers often have to be compelled to respect the past. I think we would build a more interesting city if they were a little less greedy and a little more creative
Definitely feel the old house and premier deserve the respect of a plaque placed outside Latitude, and photos archived.
Cheers, Caroline
) if that's how it was. Also, what are the interiors like?