[COM] 74-80 Light Square | 31m | 8lvls | Office

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#121 Post by omada » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:55 am

Excellent news, I am a fan of this building, we need more edgy designs like this in Adelaide.

By the sounds of it, demolition and construction could happen rather promptly (pre-commitment), unlike alot of other developments !

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#122 Post by Paulns » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:23 am

Some good news, can't wait untill they start!
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#123 Post by joshzxzx » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:47 am

Another crane here we come!
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#124 Post by Professor » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:47 am

Great news even though it's a relatively small building for the CBD.

It is a decision that clearly states where the DAC stands in relation to the moribund adelaide council.

I see the council propose that they limit who can vote in the council elections and also to have their development panel committees in secret from now on.

More power to the north adelaide club. Thank goodness the significant building / planning approvals have been taken away from them.

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#125 Post by adam_stuckey » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:08 am

This is great day for common sense!

Now all the State govenment needs to do is learn how to cut grass and write parking tickets and we wouldn't need the council at all!
To try to put it in some sort of perspective the World Cup is as big as having 2 grand finals a day for a month

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#126 Post by Benski81 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:17 pm

I saw that interview with Moron and she said that one of the reasons they rejected the project was that it would "stick out like a sore thumb." What a stupid thing to say! By that logic the whole of Adelaide which is built on a plain sticks out like a sore thumb. So we should just bulldoze the whole lot then?! Good one. Smart. She's clearly the brains of the operation over there at the council.

Colour me logical here but every single building that is the first in an area will stick out like a sore thumb. That is no reason to reject it, something has to be first. Years from now when the west end develops more then it won't stick out like a sore thumb will it!

So I'm glad to see this one approved because this and the balfours site are a good start in the development of the west end of the city.

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#127 Post by Prince George » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:03 pm

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Norman wrote:Who are the confirmed tenants?
Tindall Gask Bentley Lawyers, the current tenants of the existing building. They've committed to 80% of the new building.
So the majority of this new building will be occupied by people who are at that location already? Does that sound like it's got much capacity left for adding any extra "vibrancy" to that part of the square? Although I'm sure the legal staff will all enjoy their new window offices and on-site parking.

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#128 Post by Ben » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:12 pm

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Norman wrote:Who are the confirmed tenants?
Tindall Gask Bentley Lawyers, the current tenants of the existing building. They've committed to 80% of the new building.
So the majority of this new building will be occupied by people who are at that location already? Does that sound like it's got much capacity left for adding any extra "vibrancy" to that part of the square? Although I'm sure the legal staff will all enjoy their new window offices and on-site parking.
I doubt it. They must have an office elsewhere as the current building is 2 levels and if they are taking up 80% of a 13 level building that equals a lot more then 2 levels.

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#129 Post by Prince George » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:23 pm

Ben wrote:I doubt it. They must have an office elsewhere as the current building is 2 levels and if they are taking up 80% of a 13 level building that equals a lot more then 2 levels.
Their website says that they have a staff of only 70-odd (40 lawyers, 30 administrative staff) across multiple offices, and they list their city offices as 12 Pirie St rather than Light Square http://www.tgb.com.au/contact-us.php. I wonder if that means they are going to devote a lot of the space to records management (which may be what the current building is used for); otherwise, why would they need so much space for so few people?

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#130 Post by Ben » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:32 pm

Hmm Maybe what Howie meant is the building is 80% leased including part to the lawyers, but not the whole 80% as that doesn't seem to add up... literally.

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#131 Post by Howie » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:48 pm

Prince George wrote:
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Norman wrote:Who are the confirmed tenants?
Tindall Gask Bentley Lawyers, the current tenants of the existing building. They've committed to 80% of the new building.
So the majority of this new building will be occupied by people who are at that location already? Does that sound like it's got much capacity left for adding any extra "vibrancy" to that part of the square? Although I'm sure the legal staff will all enjoy their new window offices and on-site parking.
Not sure the arrangement, but do the math... 13 levels at 80% occupancy, should mean at least capacity for 500+ heads.

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#132 Post by Pants » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:08 pm

Yeah, TGB are nowhere near big enough to have pre-committed to 80% of this building - it must be 80% pre-committed with them as lead tenant. At a guess and allowing for future growth, they'd take up 3-4 levels tops.

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#133 Post by AtD » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:38 pm

Either way, with this type of building, tenants change continuously.

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#134 Post by Edgar » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:52 pm

omada wrote:Excellent news, I am a fan of this building, we need more edgy designs like this in Adelaide.

By the sounds of it, demolition and construction could happen rather promptly (pre-commitment), unlike alot of other developments !
To be quite honest, I can't see any edgy designs from the render. I don't think a slightly different facades with colours actually makes much difference from the other newly constructed buildings.

Other than that, I am quite happy we get some height down the part of the CBD.
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#135 Post by Will » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:10 pm

Pants wrote:Yeah, TGB are nowhere near big enough to have pre-committed to 80% of this building - it must be 80% pre-committed with them as lead tenant. At a guess and allowing for future growth, they'd take up 3-4 levels tops.
The building only has around 3500 sqm2 of ofice spcae.

Thus 80% of that is around 2800sqm2, which could be reasonable for a law firm of the size of TGB (?)

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