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Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:18 pm
by pushbutton
To be honest I'm somewhat bemused by the number of times I see people on this forum say that things should be built in the CBD, especially on the railyards.

I'm not too sure how big these railyards are, but I doubt that it's big enough to fit the new hospital, new casino, new stadium and now the new swimming centre on.

I could be wrong but I doubt it!

Not forgetting that we already have a perfectly good aquatic centre near the CBD anyway.

I for one say there's absolutely nothing wrong with spreading major developments into the suburbs, as long as it's done strategically and sensibly.

Having everything in the CBD would make no sense and lead to unbelievable traffic congestion, and of course lifeless, boring suburbs.

Marion is easy to get to from most parts of Adelaide and is already a big retail and entertainment hub, so it's a good location for the swimming centre (if it ever gets built which I'm still doubting I'm afraid!)

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:37 pm
by Cruise
If Marion is easy to get to, Then so is West Lakes.

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:18 pm
by pushbutton
Cruise wrote:If Marion is easy to get to, Then so is West Lakes.
Agreed! A lot of Adelaide people have no idea how easy it is to get around this city! I suppose it all depends on what you're used to, but it certainly is very easy to get around Adelaide thanks to good urban planning and an excellent road network.

Contrary to what a lot of Adelaide people seem to think, we also have one of the best public transport systems in the world. Anyone who doesn't think so just needs to try commuting somewhere else for a few weeks!

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:21 pm
by Wayno
pushbutton wrote:To be honest I'm somewhat bemused by the number of times I see people on this forum say that things should be built in the CBD, especially on the railyards.
To quote a US Politician, It's the 'Entertainment Precint' stupid (something like that anyways) and yep, there's plenty of land there for a complete EP (esp if you include the adelaide gaol district).

and pushbutton, i think cruise was being sarcastic with his it's easy to get to west lakes comment (although i could be wrong)...

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:24 pm
by Cruise
Wayno wrote: i think cruise was being sarcastic with his it's easy to get to west lakes comment (although i could be wrong)...
Cruise is never sarcastic about all things related to Football Park

Its kind of my pet subject

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:44 pm
by pushbutton
There'd be no need for sarcasm. West Lakes couldn't be much easier to get to. It merely 20 minutes down Port Road from the CBD!

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:34 pm
by waz94
This is an embarassment to Adelaide.
Quote from mayor that this has been going on for 9 years so another couple of months wont really matter, well, they have been saying that for 4 years now. A couple of months added to another couple of months added to another couple of months over and over again adds up to another 9 years eventually.
Just build the damn thing and if not look somewhere else. As a rate payer of Marion HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:42 pm
by peas_and_corn
We could go all crazy and build it on top of an existing CBD building :P

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:00 pm
by Shuz
I think a great location for such a facility would be the Gouger Street/West Terrace Post Office site.

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:08 pm
by pushbutton
waz94 wrote:This is an embarassment to Adelaide.
Quote from mayor that this has been going on for 9 years so another couple of months wont really matter, well, they have been saying that for 4 years now. A couple of months added to another couple of months added to another couple of months over and over again adds up to another 9 years eventually.
Just build the damn thing and if not look somewhere else. As a rate payer of Marion HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is an embarassment. That sign has been up for 9 years and still nothing has actually happened. Most places in the world would have had it planned, approved, and built and opened within 2 years MAX!

As you say, let's just get it built. It's not like nobody knows how to build a swimming pool! It's not even as though they're proposing a particularly impressive design. It's just a basic ordinary pool so let's just either get it built or forget about it!

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:25 pm
by JamesXander
Why not just build it on the current Aquatic centre. Make it huge.


State Swimming Centre and Aquatic Centre all in one.

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:29 pm
by pushbutton
JamesXander wrote:Why not just build it on the current Aquatic centre. Make it huge.


State Swimming Centre and Aquatic Centre all in one.
I think that idea probably has a lot of merit really. It would satisfy those who say the major swimming facility should be near the CBD, and they could even perhaps make it a combined serious competition swimming centre and family waterpark, with the addition of some decent flumes, wave machines and rapids etc.

Personally though I think Adelaide is big enough to support at least 2 major swimming centres.

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:31 pm
by JamesXander
pushbutton wrote:
JamesXander wrote:Why not just build it on the current Aquatic centre. Make it huge.


State Swimming Centre and Aquatic Centre all in one.
I think that idea probably has a lot of merit really. It would satisfy those who say the major swimming facility should be near the CBD, and they could even perhaps make it a combined serious competition swimming centre and family waterpark, with the addition of some decent flumes, wave machines and rapids etc.

Personally though I think Adelaide is big enough to support at least 2 major swimming centres.

Id rather one good centre then two average centres.

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:20 pm
by crawf
Lets just wait till we see a render, before we start criticizing this development.

Re: APPROVED: $60m State Swimming Centre

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:35 pm
by adam73837
pushbutton wrote:Having everything in the CBD would make no sense and lead to unbelievable traffic congestion,...
That is of course providing that everyone chooses to travel by car, which won't happen due to the fact that it is the central business district and nearly all public transport goes there (particularly the area around North Terrace... :!: )
pushbutton wrote:Marion is easy to get to from most parts of Adelaide and is already a big retail and entertainment hub,...
That's all well and good (lived in St Mary's for nearly 10 years, so I'm well aware of Marion's impact), but if we're going to build a State Aquatic Centre, wouldn't it be more logical to build it in the Central Business District. That's where nearly all public transport leads, therefore meaning that there will be less cars on the road, thus reducing pollution. Aren't we striving to become a 'Green City' :?: :mrgreen: Building an Aquatic Centre at Marion where nearly everyone will use cars, thus creating more pollution is nearly as ridiculous as my dad having to drive 60, 000 km on our car in 4 years, yet at the same time we are being told to use public transport and be 'greener'.