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Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:30 pm
by abc
rubberman wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:03 am
SBD wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:38 pm
abc wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:20 pm
I don't care. You make it sound like you're hunting these people who don't conform to your 'progressive' agenda. It's a little creepy tbh. No one in parliament anywhere in Australia is far right.
Its not a metric I care about.
WOW!
I don't very often get accused of having a "progressive agenda". I guess if I'm less-right than you, then I'm left.
"Its not a metric I care about." - I've repeatedly said I don't think a nuanced position should be boiled down to one line, and you keep coming back to it. Why?
abc doesn't care about the metric...unless someone else uses it.
Yes, its not something I consider when I vote. But when its used as a slur it has ramifications to the discourse.
Your kind do it deliberately to marginalise people who you disagree with. Its a dangerous form of social engineering.
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:33 pm
by rubberman
abc wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:30 pm
rubberman wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:03 am
SBD wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:38 pm
WOW!
I don't very often get accused of having a "progressive agenda". I guess if I'm less-right than you, then I'm left.
"Its not a metric I care about." - I've repeatedly said I don't think a nuanced position should be boiled down to one line, and you keep coming back to it. Why?
abc doesn't care about the metric...unless someone else uses it.
Yes, its not something I consider when I vote. But when its used as a slur it has ramifications to the discourse.
Your kind do it deliberately to marginalise people who you disagree with. Its a dangerous form of social engineering.
It wasn't used a a slur. I have repeatedly stated why it was legitimate. You simply don't wish to understand, nor, for some reason wish to admit that some voters may think differently from you. Your accusation is baseless. I reject it outright.
You are, of course, entitled to your stated opinion that nobody in Federal or State Parliament is extreme right wing. However, others are entitled to their opinion just as much as you.
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:03 pm
by 1NEEDS2POST
[Shuz] wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:48 pm
The result of a traditional inner city Liberal seat being lost to Labor, most on the back of a significant increase (9.5%) in the Greens vote all but guarantees that Labor will be in Government for, well, ever basically. One Party State.
Also Labor has moved right to fill some of the gap left by the Liberal's rightward shift.
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:46 pm
by SBD
1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:03 pm
[Shuz] wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:48 pm
The result of a traditional inner city Liberal seat being lost to Labor, most on the back of a significant increase (9.5%) in the Greens vote all but guarantees that Labor will be in Government for, well, ever basically. One Party State.
Also Labor has moved right to fill some of the gap left by the Liberal's rightward shift.
I agree with this. To me, the Liberal party missed big time when Labor had a privacy slip and released Dr Finizio's job application. The party could have promoted that her clear objective is to make a positive contribution to our state and that as a young professional, she was prepared to work with the system as it stood. She has most of the attributes of an Eastern states "teal" candidate - young, female, professional. As the Liberal Party in SA lurches right, it risks losing people like her who are likely on the left/Moderate side of the party.
Cressida O'Hanlon won in 2024 with fewer votes (both first preference
and two-party-prefered0 than she had when she lost in 2022. It happens to be ALP today, but still very marginal.
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:38 pm
by rubberman
Does anyone know what the hold up is in the Dunstan by-election count?
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:00 pm
by SBD
rubberman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:38 pm
Does anyone know what the hold up is in the Dunstan by-election count?
Because of Easter, postal votes were still allowed until today. According to Antony Green, 81 more votes were included. Cressida O'Hanlon won by 354 votes.
https://twitter.com/AntonyGreenElec/sta ... 4425491492 I interpret the
final distribution of preferences may not have been done yet.
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:03 pm
by rev
David Spires has stepped down as Liberal leader.
I wonder if they'll take the opportunity and elect someone young and visionary, or go with more of the same rubbish.
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:08 pm
by HiTouch
rev wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:03 pm
David Spires has stepped down as Liberal leader.
I wonder if they'll take the opportunity and elect someone young and visionary, or go with more of the same rubbish.
No such thing in the SA Liberal Party. It's the second-most dysfunctional state party in Australia (just behind the Victorian one)
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:43 pm
by abc
"young and visionary" lol
as if that exists
have you seen the state of the schools in 2024?
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:28 pm
by Jaymz
rev wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:03 pm
David Spires has stepped down as Liberal leader.
I wonder if they'll take the opportunity and elect someone young and visionary, or go with more of the same rubbish.
Ashton Hurn? She seems like the logical choice but I don't think they would put her up against Malinauskas, he's looking quite unstoppable atm. Although, the current ramping crisis is giving him a bit of a black eye..... considering his whole election campaign revolved around fixing this problem
She will be a future leader of the Libs for sure.
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:48 pm
by abc
Jaymz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:28 pm
rev wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:03 pm
David Spires has stepped down as Liberal leader.
I wonder if they'll take the opportunity and elect someone young and visionary, or go with more of the same rubbish.
Ashton Hurn? She seems like the logical choice but I don't think they would put her up against Malinauskas, he's looking quite unstoppable atm. Although, the current ramping crisis is giving him a bit of a black eye..... considering his whole election campaign revolved around fixing this problem
She will be a future leader of the Libs for sure.
mandatory jibby jabs worsened the problem
I see they've recently lifted that as they've likely realised its lowered the staffing numbers
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 9:10 pm
by SouthAussie94
Jaymz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:28 pm
rev wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:03 pm
David Spires has stepped down as Liberal leader.
I wonder if they'll take the opportunity and elect someone young and visionary, or go with more of the same rubbish.
Ashton Hurn? She seems like the logical choice but I don't think they would put her up against Malinauskas, he's looking quite unstoppable atm. Although, the current ramping crisis is giving him a bit of a black eye..... considering his whole election campaign revolved around fixing this problem
She will be a future leader of the Libs for sure.
I think either Tarzia or Gardner will be the next leader, with Hurn as Deputy.
I don't they've got a chance of winning the next election. Sometime after the next election, the new leader will stand aside / be booted and Hurn will take the leadership before having a (potentially) more realistic crack at the election in 2030(?)
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 9:45 pm
by [Shuz]
Tarzia / Gardner looks likely to be the new leadership duo. Safe conservative pick to satisfy the internal right wing and member base.
In reality, it should be Hurn/Cowdrey. The Liberals have a massive women problem and it would benefit their image to address this to broaden their appeal and attract voters back to the party.
If the ambulance ramping crisis continues to worsen, Mali is in serious trouble. Liberals will be wise to hammer this point home.
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 10:11 pm
by Will
abc wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:48 pm
mandatory jibby jabs worsened the problem
I see they've recently lifted that as they've likely realised its lowered the staffing numbers
Rubbish. Pure cooker propaganda.
SA Health employs over 40 000 people. Only 391 refused to get vaccinated. Not all of them clinical. Not a single doctor.
Ramping is due to other issues.
Re: The SA Politics Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 7:39 am
by Jaymz
[Shuz] wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 9:45 pm
Tarzia / Gardner looks likely to be the new leadership duo. Safe conservative pick to satisfy the internal right wing and member base.
In reality, it should be Hurn/Cowdrey. The Liberals have a massive women problem and it would benefit their image to address this to broaden their appeal and attract voters back to the party.
If the ambulance ramping crisis continues to worsen, Mali is in serious trouble. Liberals will be wise to hammer this point home.
Oh and i'm sure they will. Ironic though that Spiers in opposition brought forward a bill to ban the use of election corflutes during election campaigns.
I bet they are ruing that move, could just imagine how damaging they could've been in the next campaign with regards to hospital ramping.