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[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:43 pm
by rev
jk1237 wrote:fkj wrote:I hear the connector road has just reopened. I wish they had just left it closed, people were getting used to it not being there, and with a bit of work on signalling it should've been able to work without a hitch. I feel like its still just going to be a fairly useless/unwelcoming space if it's left cut up by roads left right and centre.
atleast one difference is that the middle roadway can easily be closed for special events and the square won't look like it has 6 lane wide bitumen road running through it. Maybe it should only be open Monday to Friday peak hours, and the road closed other times
The 'road' running through the middle of it is actually paved, not bitumen.
[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:18 pm
by fkj
fishinajar wrote:jk1237 wrote:fkj wrote:I hear the connector road has just reopened. I wish they had just left it closed, people were getting used to it not being there, and with a bit of work on signalling it should've been able to work without a hitch. I feel like its still just going to be a fairly useless/unwelcoming space if it's left cut up by roads left right and centre.
atleast one difference is that the middle roadway can easily be closed for special events and the square won't look like it has 6 lane wide bitumen road running through it. Maybe it should only be open Monday to Friday peak hours, and the road closed other times
Weekend closure. With some markets overflow, outdoor entertainment and/or even additional parking for markets and Vic square rec users?
I like the idea of interpeak/weekend closure, and parking could be handy, somewhat like what they used to do on Rundle Road, although this would still give it that car dominated feel that is the downfall of vic sq
[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:15 pm
by claybro
fkj wrote:like the idea of interpeak/weekend closure, and parking could be handy, somewhat like what they used to do on Rundle Road, although this would still give it that car dominated feel that is the downfall of vic sq
I also like the idea of weekend closure of the central roadway, ..but parking????? Definately not. Why spend millions on the square to then it into a casual carpark. Its not as if there are not enough carparks already in our CBD.
[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:55 am
by Vee
The newly redeveloped Victoria Square (and surrounds) will be a prominent Fringe Festival hub for 2014.
Note the date for the free dawn Kaurna Ceremony (Feb 7 - just 7 days before the official Fringe opening). The Square/Tarntanyangga will also feature in an indigenous themed closing Spirit Festival.
The Fringe Festival shuttle bus should be busy connecting up Fringe folk travelling between The Royal Croquet Club, Garden of Unearthly Delights and all points between.
Victoria Square to come alive this fringe.
The newly redeveloped Victoria Square / Tarntanyangga will become the centre of a brand new Hub for the 2014 Adelaide Fringe. Featuring new venue, The Royal Croquet Club, there will be a further 23 venues in the streets running off the Square.
Throughout the area there will be more than 140 events in venues that include Tuxedo Cat, the Arts Theatre, Royalty Theatre, Adelaide Town Hall, La Boheme and The Promethean.
The team behind Little Miss Mexico and Little Miss Miami will run the Royal Croquet Club that will feature two performance tents, bars, croquet lawns and host the hit show A Simple Space by Adelaide’s own Gravity and Other Myths.
Popular pop-up venue, Tuxedo Cat, will re-open in a number of new locations within the hub including Raj House on Hyde St. (off Flinders St) and on the cnr. Of Pulteny St. and Wakefield St.
The Adelaide Fringe will produce two special free events in the Square. Everyone is invited to attend the Kaurna Ceremony to be held at dawn on Fri 7 February, exactly 7 days before the Fringe opens. Over the long weekend from 7 to 10 March, the Fringe Street Theatre Festival will feature street theatre performers from across Australia and around the world.
The Spirit Festival, produced by Tarntanyangga National Aboriginal Cultural Institute and celebrates Australia’s indigenous culture, will also be held at Victoria Square/ Tarndanyangga on the closing weekend of the Fringe on the 15 and16 March.
http://www.adelaidefringe.com.au/media- ... his-fringe
[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:36 am
by Waewick
So lets split the crowd in half to try and get relevance for the square?
[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:56 am
by monotonehell
Waewick wrote:So lets split the crowd in half to try and get relevance for the square?
Not entirely fair, The Festivals have occupied Vic Square to some degree in past years. Add to that, the Fringe has already been spread across the City, suburbs (and State). For example the hub in Light Square last year. Take a look at a Fringe venues map, it's all over the shop.
[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:17 pm
by Nort
monotonehell wrote:Waewick wrote:So lets split the crowd in half to try and get relevance for the square?
Not entirely fair, The Festivals have occupied Vic Square to some degree in past years. Add to that, the Fringe has already been spread across the City, suburbs (and State). For example the hub in Light Square last year. Take a look at a Fringe venues map, it's all over the shop.
Yeah, Victoria Square is a very different space to the Garden of Unearthly Delights so it's not going to replace any of it's functions, but it will make a nice hub for other activities in that area of town.
[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:18 am
by omada
oh what a lovely Fringe space it will be, surrounded on all four sides by traffic, can't wait to admire the arbour & soak up the culture in those beautiful surroundings.
[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:40 pm
by Matt
From the website... looking good.
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[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:41 am
by how good is he
Looking good but my only concern is there seems to be plenty of concrete/pavers/steps and the plaza for the water feature but wondering about where the trees, grass and greenery can even grow?? Hopefully there will be plenty of shade and while I understand the landscaping comes last and has to grow .... the bottom of the amphitheatre looks like the only place with soil remaining?
[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:11 pm
by Matt
[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:38 pm
by UrbanSG
Decent sized eucalypt trees they're planting. At least they're not too small. I personally love eucalypt trees. Shame about the time of year they're being planted though. Would have been more ideal in the cooler months. Everything sure is being rushed around town at the moment could be a few patch up jobs down the track.
Let's see all the eucalypt tree haters come out in force again now.
[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:42 pm
by spiller
I'll bite.
I'm sick of Eucalypts! Why the need to plant them everywhere? They aren't nice looking, are prone to dropping their branches and we have a million of them in the parklands.
[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:44 pm
by zippySA
Totally with you Urban - very glad to see the eucalypts going in here. They'll look fantastic as they mature - more the merrier I say of the natives.
spiller - they are disappearing across Adelaide faster than they get replaced - and yes, branches dropping are an issue - but in the scale of things, more peolpe are likely to be injured walking into the trunk pissed than they will be from falling limbs.
[COM] Re: #U/C: Victoria Square Upgrade - $24m
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:59 pm
by UrbanSG
Eucalypt trees look great, especially after a hot day in the setting sun, pinks, oranges etc on the pale grey trunks and limbs.
Spiller there are so many because they are our native tree suited to minimal rain and scorching hot weather.
I'm sick of seeing too many mature European species dying in our parklands and streets because they are not suited to our climate at all. Give me natives any day. The main exception seems to be plane trees. However there are only so many of them we want all over the city too.
Good to see eucalypts being planted in 'Reconciliation Plaza' too. European species would not have been appropriate at all.