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Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:18 pm
by monotonehell
Cruise wrote:The highway also features the Heysen Tunnels, the first twin-tube tunnels on the National Highway.
Bolding mine. I'm not putting forward any evidence, just pointing out that interesting caveat.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:21 pm
by Cruise
yeah i think there might be something to that.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:28 pm
by AG
AtD wrote:OK, what about Sydney Harbour Tunnel? That was opened in 1992 according to Wikipedia.

(I only thought of it because I was in it on Saturday)
Yep, that would be older than any of the other tunnels mentioned so far. Several different construction methods used but still older and consisting of two tunnels.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:33 am
by Bulldozer
AG wrote:
AtD wrote:OK, what about Sydney Harbour Tunnel? That was opened in 1992 according to Wikipedia.

(I only thought of it because I was in it on Saturday)
Yep, that would be older than any of the other tunnels mentioned so far. Several different construction methods used but still older and consisting of two tunnels.
Cut and cover on land and underwater it was done by dredging and then dropping down giant precast concrete tunnel sections if I remember correctly. ( That was probably 10 or 12 years ago when I saw the video about it in the Sydney Harbour Bridge. :))

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:12 pm
by Wayno
from the Independent Weekly
http://adelaide.yourguide.com.au/news/l ... 04373.html
Free peak hour public transport: Democrats
The South Australian Democrats have called for free public transport before 7.30am to reduce peak hour congestion.

Democrats MLC Sandra Kanck said SA should follow the Victorian initiative encouraging workers to start work earlier and avoid the rush.

She said traffic could be further reduced by extending the hours of operation of bus transit lanes, which currently end at 9am and 6pm.

"By extending this on selected roads - even by 30 minutes - the blockages on our main arterial roads could be reduced," Ms Kanck said.

She said Transport Minister Pat Conlon should not just focus on big projects but also on fine-tuning which could also ease traffic problems.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:28 pm
by Ho Really
Wayno wrote:from the Independent Weekly
http://adelaide.yourguide.com.au/news/l ... 04373.html
Free peak hour public transport: Democrats
The South Australian Democrats have called for free public transport before 7.30am to reduce peak hour congestion.

Democrats MLC Sandra Kanck said SA should follow the Victorian initiative encouraging workers to start work earlier and avoid the rush.

She said traffic could be further reduced by extending the hours of operation of bus transit lanes, which currently end at 9am and 6pm.

"By extending this on selected roads - even by 30 minutes - the blockages on our main arterial roads could be reduced," Ms Kanck said.

She said Transport Minister Pat Conlon should not just focus on big projects but also on fine-tuning which could also ease traffic problems.
While we are at it why not get rid of daylight saving? Workers would have light earlier in the mornings, start work earlier, be on the same time as the Eastern States and free public transport to boot...what a solution!

Cheers

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:33 pm
by Norman
I think those points should be implemented IMO.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:57 pm
by monotonehell
Norman wrote:I think those points should be implemented IMO.
Or if they don't want to go for the 200% discount, maybe an extension of the interpeak rate be made before 7:30?

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:36 pm
by Shuz
Ho Really wrote:
While we are at it why not get rid of daylight saving? Workers would have light earlier in the mornings, start work earlier, be on the same time as the Eastern States and free public transport to boot...what a solution!

Cheers
That's actually a very decent idea, kills two birds with one stone.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:39 pm
by Shuz
Ho Really wrote:
While we are at it why not get rid of daylight saving? Workers would have light earlier in the mornings, start work earlier, be on the same time as the Eastern States and free public transport to boot...what a solution!

Cheers
Thats a fairly decent idea. Kills two birds with one stone.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:23 pm
by Ash-SV6
monotonehell wrote:
Norman wrote:I think those points should be implemented IMO.
Or if they don't want to go for the 200% discount, maybe an extension of the interpeak rate be made before 7:30?
200% discount? So you get paid to travel by public transport - I like it! :o

But seriously I agree with you, lets have interpeak before 7:30am and after 6:30pm to encourage more public transport use during those times.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:17 pm
by monotonehell
Ash-SV6 wrote:
monotonehell wrote:
Norman wrote:I think those points should be implemented IMO.
Or if they don't want to go for the 200% discount, maybe an extension of the interpeak rate be made before 7:30?
200% discount? So you get paid to travel by public transport - I like it! :o

But seriously I agree with you, lets have interpeak before 7:30am and after 6:30pm to encourage more public transport use during those times.
The current cost accounting has govt PT subsidies of around $2.90 for a bus trip and $8.80 for a train trip (plus the $4.10 the passenger pays for a full fare). My math to get to 200% is flawed, but you get the point?

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:33 pm
by Will409
I'd personally like to see interpeak fares/tickets valid on weekends/public holidays to encourage usage at those times.

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:43 pm
by Norman
Ho Really wrote:While we are at it why not get rid of daylight saving? Workers would have light earlier in the mornings, start work earlier, be on the same time as the Eastern States and free public transport to boot...what a solution!

Cheers
Errr... the Daylight Savings difference is 1 hour while the CST and EST differ by 30 minutes...

Re: Adelaide Transport Woes

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:06 pm
by Ash-SV6
monotonehell wrote:
Ash-SV6 wrote:
monotonehell wrote: Or if they don't want to go for the 200% discount, maybe an extension of the interpeak rate be made before 7:30?
200% discount? So you get paid to travel by public transport - I like it! :o

But seriously I agree with you, lets have interpeak before 7:30am and after 6:30pm to encourage more public transport use during those times.
The current cost accounting has govt PT subsidies of around $2.90 for a bus trip and $8.80 for a train trip (plus the $4.10 the passenger pays for a full fare). My math to get to 200% is flawed, but you get the point?
Ah ok I see where your coming from, just read like it was a 200% discount for the customer, where 100% discount would be free.