[PRO] 188 Grenfell Street | ~98m | 29 Levels | Student Accom

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[PRO] Re: 188 Grenfell Street | ~98m | 29 Levels | Student Accom

#136 Post by SRW » Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:11 pm

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Closed for TWO YEARS for soundproofing?

Yeah that's basically just killing off the business.
The Austral comes to mind as a cautionary tale. Formerly a popular live music venue, the beer garden was closed for soundproofing due to surrounding apartments, only to never host gigs of the kind again.
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#137 Post by gnrc_louis » Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:13 pm

SRW wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:11 pm
Nort wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:16 pm
Closed for TWO YEARS for soundproofing?

Yeah that's basically just killing off the business.
The Austral comes to mind as a cautionary tale. Formerly a popular live music venue, the beer garden was closed for soundproofing due to surrounding apartments, only to never host gigs of the kind again.
The Exeter also suffered from noise complaints from neighboring apartment owners and had to stop having gigs in their beer garden.

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[PRO] Re: 188 Grenfell Street | ~98m | 29 Levels | Student Accom

#138 Post by SRW » Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:22 pm

I have to say I'm not opposed to allowing a taller building but it strikes me as the sort of carve out that allows bad faith developers to undermine the planning system. More so with the the apparent 'expedited track' the government has agreed, which I hope doesn't exempt them from other design standards.
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#139 Post by Patrick_27 » Sun Aug 18, 2024 11:19 pm

gnrc_louis wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:13 pm
SRW wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:11 pm
Nort wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:16 pm
Closed for TWO YEARS for soundproofing?

Yeah that's basically just killing off the business.
The Austral comes to mind as a cautionary tale. Formerly a popular live music venue, the beer garden was closed for soundproofing due to surrounding apartments, only to never host gigs of the kind again.
The Exeter also suffered from noise complaints from neighboring apartment owners and had to stop having gigs in their beer garden.
The Ex still hosts the occasional gig in their beer garden.

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[PRO] Re: 188 Grenfell Street | ~98m | 29 Levels | Student Accom

#140 Post by Patrick_27 » Sun Aug 18, 2024 11:27 pm

Why was this changed to a 98m/29 level development? From my understanding (InDaily as my source), it’s been offered to the developers that they can build up to 29 levels but whether they do or not is yet to be put forward by the developers…

Frankly, in its current form, the Cranker as a cultural institution only really works with the neighbouring Roxies and Chateau Apollo operational, sad but true. It’s a precinct after all.

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#141 Post by ChillyPhilly » Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:05 am

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I'll call it: Malinauskas will intervene and this will not proceed.
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#142 Post by Ben » Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:07 am

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I’ve heard this has no chance of getting up and Mali has intentionally waited for the groundswell so he can swoop
In as the hero once the numbers have built up.

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#143 Post by NTRabbit » Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:41 pm

According to the Save the Cranker group, the current operator has a right of return after a maximum 2 years, and has no plans to leave or change anything. The legislation also says that the building must always be a pub, and has a right to operate as a live music venue.

The developer might even have to stump up for real sound proofing in the tower to make it work from their end.
Ben wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:07 am
Ben wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:24 pm
I’ve heard this has no chance of getting up and Mali has intentionally waited for the groundswell so he can swoop
In as the hero once the numbers have built up.
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#144 Post by Ben » Mon Aug 19, 2024 7:46 pm

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#145 Post by Dvious » Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:14 pm

Hopefully this gets torn to shreds by the planners.

What a mundane proposal.

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#146 Post by Pistol » Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:33 pm

ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:48 pm
I'll call it: Malinauskas will intervene and this will not proceed.
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#147 Post by rev » Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:50 pm

Not sure why people are celebrating this, regardless of their "emotions" connected to a pub.
This is a terrible outcome, and sets a terrible precedent. Then again this is South Australia where most people can't see past their own self interests regardless of the bigger costs/negatives down the track.

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[PRO] Re: 188 Grenfell Street | ~98m | 29 Levels | Student Accom

#148 Post by NTRabbit » Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:23 pm

rev wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:50 pm
Not sure why people are celebrating this, regardless of their "emotions" connected to a pub.
This is a terrible outcome, and sets a terrible precedent. Then again this is South Australia where most people can't see past their own self interests regardless of the bigger costs/negatives down the track.
They are celebrating because it was, in fact, a great outcome

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#149 Post by Mpol02 » Tue Aug 20, 2024 3:08 am

That render looks heinous happy to not see this one go up. What’s with that dark wall? It’ll fade in the sun within months

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#150 Post by [Shuz] » Tue Aug 20, 2024 7:14 am

That render has been done in Sketchup not in CAD.

Didn't realise Wee Hua had first year uni students leading their design team.
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