Discussion: Development of Adelaide Railyards

[cruel_world00]

I think the 1 billion it would take to construct a new ground would be better spent on the new hospital, the RAH is disgraceful - and this is coming not from me, but people who work there. We have an untapped resource in the city for sport - the Adelaide Oval.

No one is saying the hospital shouldn't go ahead. No one is saying we need the new stadium NOW... But stop pumping funds into AAMI stadium and don't build the hospital on a prime piece of inner CBD real estate.

[Brando]

I think the 1 billion it would take to construct a new ground would be better spent on the new hospital, the RAH is disgraceful - and this is coming not from me, but people who work there. We have an untapped resource in the city for sport - the Adelaide Oval.

No one is saying the hospital shouldn't go ahead. No one is saying we need the new stadium NOW... But stop pumping funds into AAMI stadium and don't build the hospital on a prime piece of inner CBD real estate.

AMEN.....

[Benski81]

I think the 1 billion it would take to construct a new ground would be better spent on the new hospital, the RAH is disgraceful - and this is coming not from me, but people who work there. We have an untapped resource in the city for sport - the Adelaide Oval.

Interestingly enough my brother works in emergency at the RAH and he was saying that the feeling from a lot of the nurses there is that the RAH as it is now isn't really that bad. They're not particularly fussed because it's not the wards or the building that's the big issue it's the staffing levels and the equipment that they use that's a bigger factor in the level of care adimistered. Apparently they are using state of the art equipment but they're understaffed. He was saying he couldn't care less if they rebuild the hospital or keep the existing one so long as they keep on top of medical technology and increase staffing levels.

[ricecrackers]

the AFL use future population projections eg for the next 30 years, to prioritize where to focus their funds and expansion.

while i would like to see Tasmania get a team in the AFL, the figures i assume just dont add up when compared with the huge population increases SE QLD, Western Sydney and Perth are expected to get during that time.

Tasmania and Adelaide's population growth is quite slow in comparison and if i'm not mistaken is forecast to top out by the middle of this century.

this is the reasoning behind the AFL's funding and future direction initiatives.

having said that, the AFL are providing a sizable amount to patch up AAMI, and to take a cynical approach would have me believe that by funding an upgrade at AAMI rather than fund a new multipurpose stadium, is in the best interests of Australian Rules football, as it ensures the sleeping giant of soccer football is kept asleep as it wallows in the confines of tiny Hindmarsh stadium - and no high profile Socceroos matches are brought to Adelaide and Adelaide United are unable to satisfy the demand for their corporate sponsors either.

[Waewick]

i'm all for development and getting rid of the stupid railyards

but anyone who thinks we need a new stadium over a new hospital hasn't spent enough time in hospitals.

the RAH is a disgrace and it needs to be demolished ASAP.

Adelaide oval should be made into the the best stadium in the country and thats it.

[jlimty]

I think the 1 billion it would take to construct a new ground would be better spent on the new hospital, the RAH is disgraceful - and this is coming not from me, but people who work there. We have an untapped resource in the city for sport - the Adelaide Oval.

Interestingly enough my brother works in emergency at the RAH and he was saying that the feeling from a lot of the nurses there is that the RAH as it is now isn't really that bad. They're not particularly fussed because it's not the wards or the building that's the big issue it's the staffing levels and the equipment that they use that's a bigger factor in the level of care adimistered. Apparently they are using state of the art equipment but they're understaffed. He was saying he couldn't care less if they rebuild the hospital or keep the existing one so long as they keep on top of medical technology and increase staffing levels.

Fair enough the staff might not feel like they need a nice new building but what about the patients who actually have to spend a considerable amount of time in the RAH? For the staff the hospital is just a workplace (I'm pretty sure there are other workplaces in the CBD which are in just as bad a condition) but they actually get to enjoy the comforts of their own home once they finish work. For those patients who have to actually stay there (and mind you they probably wouldn't be very happy to start with being ill/injured) I'm quite sure it is not as pleasant as it could and should be. Being in a pleasant environment would definitely improve patient care ten fold which is what a hospital is all about anyway.

Also, the prospect of having a world class medical facility would probably help with the recruiting of health professionals as well seeing as hospital is understaffed. Seems like a win win situation for me (I'm not saying I'm a 100% in agreement with the proposed location but I do believe we need a new hospital and the sooner we have one the better it is for everyone)

[Cruise]

while i would like to see Tasmania get a team in the AFL, the figures i assume just dont add up when compared with the huge population increases SE QLD, Western Sydney and Perth are expected to get during that time.

See now think of this, lets say there no Geelong in the AFL, I would like to see a business case to set up a new team there.

It would not add up. yet they do well (off field that is)
Just like how a Tasmanian team would

[ricecrackers]

See now think of this, lets say there no Geelong in the AFL, I would like to see a business case to set up a new team there.

It would not add up. yet they do well (off field that is)
Just like how a Tasmanian team would

well i dont think Demetriou has ruled out Tasmania from having a team in the AFL one day, and i'm not saying they wouldnt be viable, but the pecking order the AFL has done is based on what i mentioned before.

one could argue they already have a team, albeit a part time one (Hawthorn), and the AFL is currently happy with that arrangement.

[Cruise]

Currently, Hawthorn, sell "Supporter packs" in Tasmania with admission to the four games a year in Tasmaina, and includes the regular crap (hats, bumper stickers, coupons and that)

[aussie2000]

but anyone who thinks we need a new stadium over a new hospital hasn't spent enough time in hospitals.

perhaps you should read around, we know we need a new hospital, and we all know its more important than a stadium, we just dont want it built on such a prime location, like the railyards. i dont know how many more times it needs to be said

[cruel_world00]

but anyone who thinks we need a new stadium over a new hospital hasn't spent enough time in hospitals.

perhaps you should read around, we know we need a new hospital, and we all know its more important than a stadium, we just dont want it built on such a prime location, like the railyards. i dont know how many more times it needs to be said

Quoting to really send the message home to those who keep saying "but we need a hospital more than a stadium."

[Will]

I heard on the radio that the state governemnt is initiating a public consultation process to ask for the public's opinion regarding the re-zoning of the western railyards to accomodate the Marj.

Knowing the current government's tendency for populism, the optimist in me suspects that if they were to receive a flood of public opposition regarding the proposed location of the Marj, it may well provide the Premier a window of opportunity to back-flip whilst saving face.

[Shuz]

Interesting you note that Will - particularly since there has been rumour that the hospital is financially unviable, and the support for an inner-city stadium is reaching peak popularity in light of AAMI's shortcomings of being a FIFA-standard venue regardless of any upgrade. The Goverment has saved face before, and will want to again if it wants to maintain power for the forthcoming election. This is essentially their prime oppurtunity to give the public what it wants.

Fingers crossed.

[crawf]

I really don't even know why they are having a public consultation, the Government have once again made it very clear the Marj is still a goer on the railway yards.

I really really wish the Government would see that this a PRIME city area that deserves a thriving entertainment/residential or sporting hub then a hospital.

As everybody keeps saying (including me), the Royal Adelaide Hospital should be redeveloped or a new hospital built at the Clipsal site.

[Brando]

I really don't even know why they are having a public consultation, the Government have once again made it very clear the Marj is still a goer on the railway yards.

I really really wish the Government would see that this a PRIME city area that deserves a thriving entertainment/residential or sporting hub then a hospital.

As everybody keeps saying (including me), the Royal Adelaide Hospital should be redeveloped or a new hospital built at the Clipsal site.

Rann's way of making the backflip look more credible.