News & Discussion: Squares and Parklands

[Waewick]

thats fair enough but I still don't think it goes far enough to making the parklands more attractive

still a step in the right direction.

[crawf]

Scaremongering at its best this article.

These include the expansion of Adelaide Oval, building the new Royal Adelaide Hospital, new permanent parking areas for sports fixtures, the Adelaide Convention Centre expansion, improving the Britannia Roundabout and permanent motor sport infrastructure with corporate suites.

Half these projects aren't really even in the parklands. The Britannia Roundabout Upgrade was a Liberal proposal, even if Labor do decide to finally fix up that mess then so be it.

Ministers on the public record as wanting developments built in parklands - ranging from Paris-style apartment blocks with shops on the ground floor, to car parks to the O-Bahn corridor - now include Treasurer Kevin Foley, Transport Minister Patrick Conlon, Urban Development Minister Paul Holloway and City of Adelaide Minister Gail Gago.

First we have heard of this.

Don't get me wrong the parklands are a great asset to Adelaide, but we shouldn't hold this city to ransom so a couple of people can walk their dog or keep 1836 plan alive.

It still disgusts me that we lost a city horse racecourse because of the whole saga a couple of years ago. Adelaide would of probably been one of the few major cities in the world that had a racecourse on the edge of the city, but ofcourse we lost it and now Victoria Park has become barren like most of the parklands.

[rhino]

While huge areas of the parklands are used for nothing more than horse paddock ......

Where are the horse paddocks in the parklands?

[Nathan]

While huge areas of the parklands are used for nothing more than horse paddock ......

Where are the horse paddocks in the parklands?

North Adelaide I believe.

[AtD]

The horses are between Kingston Tce, Lefevre Tce and Robe Tce in North Adelaide. It's a massive area.

Having a re-read of that article, the projects they take offense to:
- O-Bahn extension - A positive PT project and the path hasn't actually been announced yet
- Adelaide Oval - Civic recreation facility, isn't that what the parklands are for?
- Clipsal facilities - Ditto Adelaide Oval
- Convention Centre - reclaimed railyard space, if it even happens
- RAH - reclaimed railyard space
- Paris-style apartment blocks with shops on the ground floor - where did they pull that one from? Some ministers off-the-cuff remark does not equal government policy let alone bulldozers and cranes
- Car parks - no actual plan, just talk
- Oval footbridge - oh the humanity

So all in all a crap article IMO.

[rhino]

So all in all a crap article IMO.

Gotta agree with you

[yousername]

Adelaide parklands revegetation proposal
SHERADYN HOLDERHEAD From: AdelaideNow July 15, 2010 10:04pm

IDEAS to regenerate Adelaide's parklands to include recreation hubs that complement city activities and sustainable landscaping have been unveiled.

A set of guidelines that will be used to inform and create a draft Landscape Master Plan for the Adelaide Park Lands were last night presented at the Adelaide Park Lands Authority meeting by Kevin Taylor - a principal of Taylor Cullity Lethlean landscape architects, who designed the Victoria Square redevelopment.

Under the plan, the parklands would be divided into four defined area types - open woodlands, active sports, urban gardens and civic, cultural and urban parks - to create distinct uses within each.

Mr Taylor said the concept would also create a unified character and more continuous area of parklands, by overcoming disruptions caused by roads and rail lines.

"At the moment it's very much fragmented, you're not in something that's continuous," he said.

Other ideas included:

DEVELOPING the River Torrens precinct to create a major iconic attraction.

ENHANCING the contrast between the park lands, city and suburbia creating a stronger buffer zone.

CREATING more views from the city into the landscapes areas.

CATERING for a variety of activities which allow and increase the level of multi-use sites.

MAKING "beautiful" spaces by combining planting, landform, artworks and water.

LINKING the creek corridor, bicycle and walking trails that are adjacent to opens space

[Wayno]

Botanic Park Wetland

From AdelaideNow:

The Adelaide Botanic Garden is to get a $5.8 million wetland system that would reduce its demand on potable water from the River Murray.

The First Creek Wetland would include a water aquifer storage and recovery system in the Parklands, giving the garden access to a secure water supply. The system would gradually replace the use of potable water over a five-year period, with an anticipated usable capacity of about 100 megalitres a year.

The state and federal governments would fund the project if it gains approval from the state's Development Assessment Commission.

The proposed scheme would allow stormwater to be diverted from First Creek as it enters the Botanic Garden before being stored in, and subsequently recovered from, an underlying aquifer.

The development will include a gross pollutant trap that will treat all of the stormwater flowing down First Creek and through the wetland.

The stormwater capture and reuse will contribute to the state's targets for reduced potable water use and increased stormwater use.

The system will be located in the southeast corner of the garden and include indigenous Adelaide plant species, visitor pathways and other amenities.

Displays through and around the wetlands will explain each part of the system.

Redwood Park residents Amal Ghanem and Diaa Zailaa are Botanic Garden regulars who have visited four times in the past month. Ms Ghanem welcomed the potential addition of the First Creek Wetland.

"That would be great if the supply of water could be taken from here," she said.

According to a development application tabled with the Adelaide City Council's Development Assessment Panel last night, the project's anticipated completion date is March 2012.

It estimated the garden would save between $77,000 and $260,000 in water bills once the system was fully operational.

The Development Assessment Panel voted to support the application, which needs the Development Assessment Commission's approval to go ahead because the total project cost, including an anticipated works cost of $4.3 million, is over $10 million.

Somewhere in the SE corner puts this near the Wine Centre. Also wonder how the Glenelg recycled water pipeline integrates here. I thought we just finished locating pipeline services in the botanic gardens?

...and where does First Creek run?

[monotonehell]

Quoath the Wayno "...and where does First Creek run?"

First creek comes from Burnside, heads toward Kent Town, goes under Kent Town, and pops out west of Hackney road between the Wine Centre and the old Tram depot. It then wobbles through the Botanic Gardens (in a drain, anyone who's explored the Gardens will know it) before dribbling into the newly exposed wetland south of the Zoo (it used to be underground) and then leaks into the Torrens there.

Emerges West of Hackney road:
http://goo.gl/maps/jiWj

The Drain:
http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-34.916409,1 ... d=20100614

Exit stage Torrens:
http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-34.915342,1 ... d=20100614

Of further interest, that area around the Wine Centre and old Tram Barns is where the Botanic Gardens have installed their underground water storage a few years ago.

[Wayno]

good sleuthing there mono...thanks muchly.

[Omicron]

I'm convinced that years and years ago, a group of my more adventurous family members and little Omi scurried about through the dry bed of First Creek from somewhere around Tusmore as far north as humans could get. Not far, from memory, but there were definitely tunnels under bridges involved.

Following it on the map, I lose it around 14 Charles St, Norwood, and then somehow it pops up again where Mono pointed out, in Hackney. Mind you, there are a few eastern suburb creeks, so I might have gotten some confused.

[Vee]

Not sure if this is the right thread...

A new lone tennis court (asphalt variety) and surrounding tall fence has been carved out of the park lands, quite close to the footpath and opposite Pulteney Grammar. There are plenty of other tennis courts nearby and these are much less obtrusive. I wonder why this was approved, especially in its current position, and what are the conditions of use?

It also amazes me that there is a massive length of 25km/hr school zone to be observed (when children are present) along this stretch of park lands (South Terrace), given that there is a purpose-built pedestrian overpass (constructed by/for the College?) which appears to be rarely used AND a push button activated pedestrian crossing in the vicinity.

Perhaps part of the footpath on both sides could have a safety fence to funnel students and others to use the overpass and a similar arrangement could be included adjacent the crossing to improve safety for the children and other pedestrians? This would obviate the need for such a massive 25km/hr zone with drivers having to scan footpaths on both sides of the road, partially obscured with parked vehicles, to be on the lookout for persons on the footpath (24/7) and also determine if they are children.

[Wayno]

Hi Vee, might be worth posting a question in the News from the ACC thread. Clr David Plumridge may have details he can share.

[[Shuz]]

To merge parkland-related topics into single thread.

[Nathan]

The development of the parklands between the Torrens and the Gawler train line has been put out for community feedback. This will be directly opposite the Bowden TOD. Open day on February 23.
http://www.renewalsa.sa.gov.au/parklands/
http://www.renewalsa.sa.gov.au/Portals/ ... ingles.pdf
http://www.renewalsa.sa.gov.au/Portals/ ... n_RevA.pdf

Overall looks pretty good, although I'd like a little less open space (sports field, dog area) and have some denser "woodlands" and other plantings, and more of the central spine/waterplay area (since that is positioned where the outer harbour rail line is, it will be some time before it happens. A smaller second version through the community gardens would be nice.)

Still no concrete timing on the rail line undergrounding. It's got federal funding, so not sure why timelines are so hard to come by.